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Old   July 31, 2012, 19:49
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I am new in the CFD field, so this means that I have only worked with and developed simple geometries in Gambit to work along with FLUENT. The most complex geometry I've created was a 3D hydrocyclone. This made me wonder if there is another program that makes the creation of more complex geometry possible, or any program such as Autocad which can be used along with Gambit to make this possible.

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Old   August 1, 2012, 03:04
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Do you mean the CAD geometry?
Then it's a CAD software you need. I don't know the recent versions of Autocad, but a few years ago they weren't that good with 3D geometries. I use solidwors and it is very convenient for 3D parts, at the same time it is easy to use and much less complicated than Catia for example.
You can also try Design Modeller if you have workbench. It's not a proper CAD package but it is better at geometry definition than Gambit I think.
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Old   August 1, 2012, 09:59
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So is Gambit able to import CAD geometries from any CAD extension program so I can mesh them later?
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Old   August 1, 2012, 10:55
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I do not know if gambit is able to import geometry from ANY CAD software, I use parasolids (.x_t) and it works fine.
If you want to know which formats gambit can open, I suggest that you start Gambit and click on File / import --> then you will see what you can import.
There is a tutorial about importing IGES geometry: 5. importing and cleaning up sedan geometry.
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Old   August 2, 2012, 00:45
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Step import from ProE works good for me
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Thanks a lot! I'll try SolidWorks and ProE and later post my feedback! Gambit can import a lot of files, as I expected. There is CAD import from Gambit and also Parasolid extension files (.x_t, etc).

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Dear friends,
i am using gambit to draw my 3D wing,i create outer domain, the problem i face is my wing face & domain face are intersect i want to stick my wing face in one of the domain face, For that how i tilt either my wing face or my plane(face) to make a cantilever beam, please see my attached wing( in that red color shows wing face1, I want to stick face 1 to face2 like cantilever beam, then i want subtract my face 2 to face 1, please see the attached various position of image, please help me
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If you stitch your wing then you get a volume.
Then you can easily split your wing-volume with your face2
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thanks max, for your response, what i am asking is , I already make wing as volume, that is volume1, and outer domain volume 2, but my problem is i want to attach wing face 1 to domain face2 like cantilever beam, the problem is wing face 1(ie red color) is not parallel to axis Gx its slightly tilted.

if you consider volume all faces are parallel to according to Gx,Gy,Gz axis, here wing face 1(chord length) is not parallel to Gx axis it is tilted, if its parallel then its easy to attach wing face 1 to domain face 2, here the possibilities is either i can tilt( make parallel) my wing face 1 to Gx axis or i tilt my domain face 2, please see the attached my images.
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your wing volume is going out of your domain volume.
So if you want to comput the whole wing then you need to sweep a little bit your outer domain.
Now I don't get exactly what you want, Do you want your wing to be fully attached to face 2?
Then you need to sweep the wing-face1 in one directiion, and then split the new volume with domain face 2.
You could also rotate your outer domain, but I assume your fluid is entering normal to one of any face in current position, right?
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thanks max

Do you want your wing to be fully attached to face 2?

whatever u understand is correct, thatis to attach my wing face1(shows red color) to attach domain face 2 ( finally wing looks like cantilever beam)
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Then you need to sweep the wing-face1 in one direction, and then split the new volume with domain face 2.
http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/gamb...eom_volm_sweep
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thanks a lot max for your kind response & help, i got it.
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Dear max,

According to my problem, i am doing 3D wing analysis by using gambit & fluent software. i subtract my wing from outer domain, My velocity is 5m/s, area is 0.0102 sq m, length is 0.065 m, for my case it is steady, laminar, incompressible flow, i want to do analysis, in fluent i don't exactly which boundary condition i suitable, please see the attached image, in that i consider wing as wall, one face is velocity inlet& opposite face is pressure outlet, remaining faces i consider symmetry boundary condition is it correct for my problem,

For this problem what is exact domain size & boundary conditions, please help me.

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From velocity inlet to wing is (3x) remaining all are 6x , x is length.


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Dear max, thanks

According to my problem,i consider wing as wall, one face is velocity inlet& opposite face is pressure outlet, remaining faces i consider symmetry boundary condition is it correct for my problem, please let me give your suggestion and domain size ,please see the attached image
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for me it is not correct, but I am not familiar with such calculations
I let other members to discuss over this topic
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