[GAMBIT] Rotating Circle in a parrallel plate

MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 01:35

My geometry is like that. The clearance is very less

-mAx- · October 23, 2012, 01:36

the circle represents your rotating solid?

MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 01:37

Yes my circle is rotating and solid

-mAx- · October 23, 2012, 01:51

This is typical reason why you need to post picture of your problem at the beginning.
Ok then your annulus will be very thin. Let's say, the outer radius from annulus will split the gap between solid and rectangle into 2 parts

MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 02:13

Sorry, next time I'll post the picture. But all your replies is useful for me.
Now you are telling to split the geometry into two at the annulus region right??

If i split geometry in gambit , is it possible to combine the geometry in fluent??

-mAx- · October 23, 2012, 02:20

no you create your second circle so that the gap between your solid-circle and rectangle-edge will be cutted in half

MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 02:32

sorry can you pleas explain?

MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 02:39

Now i just want to rotate the solid body (no sliding mesh) with this current geometry.

Next step I'll make sliding mesh.

-mAx- · October 23, 2012, 03:00

no sliding mesh = no rotation
or you can use moving mesh or MRF (check points 10 and 11: http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/flue...g/main_pre.htm)

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MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 03:03

Thank you.. :-)

MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 05:12

Do you have any simple tutorials for rotation or sliding meshing??

-mAx- · October 23, 2012, 05:28

check on the web site I mentionned earlier, you can found the tutorials

MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 05:46

I need meshing tutorial. The available tutorials are problems in Fluent solver. Any tutorial is available for meshing in gambit related to moving mesh/rotation?

-mAx- · October 23, 2012, 06:12

http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/gamb...uide/tgtoc.htm

MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 06:16

i meshed the geometry in gambit. Initially I'm doing MRF ( by giving angular velocity to Circle keeping circle as wall). Can you check the meshing is correct? I split the faces and did meshing.

-mAx- · October 23, 2012, 06:49

there is a tool for checking mesh quality in gambit:
http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/gamb....htm#gc_exmesh

MrinalKR · October 23, 2012, 07:01

Thank you.. Actually there will be no persons for helping. That why asking doubts like this. I'm new to all the cfd modelings. Now i got some idea about (theory) SRF,MRF,sliding mesh and dynamics mesh. Once again thank you.. :-)

MrinalKR · October 31, 2012, 01:43

Hi
I rotated circle inside the rectangle domain by giving circle as wall with a angular velocity. But I'm not getting required result. As you told earlier giving rotation to the annulus region (fluid) by considering concentric circle is also not possible because of less clearance between circle and rectangle. Is both the method obtain same result??

So can i consider a rectangular region around the circle and giving rotation to the region(shown in fig) between smaller rectangle and circle? Is it possible??

-mAx- · October 31, 2012, 03:39

you need to set rotation speed on annulus domain, but no rotation to inner circle (solid), since it already belongs to the annulus domain (and consequently has rotation speed)
your last method won't work.
The easiest way would be to set only the inner circle with velocity (but without moving grid)

MrinalKR · October 31, 2012, 03:54

But the clearance is very less then how can i make annulus region and meshing it??

October 23, 2012, 01:36		#22
-mAx- Super Moderator Maxime Perelli Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 3,297 Rep Power: 41	the circle represents your rotating solid? __________________ In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider

October 23, 2012, 01:51		#24
-mAx- Super Moderator Maxime Perelli Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 3,297 Rep Power: 41	This is typical reason why you need to post picture of your problem at the beginning. Ok then your annulus will be very thin. Let's say, the outer radius from annulus will split the gap between solid and rectangle into 2 parts __________________ In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider

October 23, 2012, 02:20		#26
-mAx- Super Moderator Maxime Perelli Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 3,297 Rep Power: 41	no you create your second circle so that the gap between your solid-circle and rectangle-edge will be cutted in half __________________ In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider

October 23, 2012, 03:00		#29
-mAx- Super Moderator Maxime Perelli Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 3,297 Rep Power: 41	no sliding mesh = no rotation or you can use moving mesh or MRF (check points 10 and 11: http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/flue...g/main_pre.htm) Sans titre1.jpg Sans titre2.png MrinalKR likes this. __________________ In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider

October 23, 2012, 05:28		#32
-mAx- Super Moderator Maxime Perelli Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 3,297 Rep Power: 41	check on the web site I mentionned earlier, you can found the tutorials MrinalKR likes this. __________________ In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider

October 23, 2012, 01:35		#21
MrinalKR Member Mrinal K R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 47 Rep Power: 14	My geometry is like that. The clearance is very less

October 23, 2012, 01:37		#23
MrinalKR Member Mrinal K R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 47 Rep Power: 14	Yes my circle is rotating and solid

October 23, 2012, 02:32		#27
MrinalKR Member Mrinal K R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 47 Rep Power: 14	sorry can you pleas explain?

October 23, 2012, 02:39		#28
MrinalKR Member Mrinal K R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 47 Rep Power: 14	Now i just want to rotate the solid body (no sliding mesh) with this current geometry. Next step I'll make sliding mesh.

October 23, 2012, 03:03		#30
MrinalKR Member Mrinal K R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 47 Rep Power: 14	Thank you.. :-)

October 23, 2012, 05:12		#31
MrinalKR Member Mrinal K R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 47 Rep Power: 14	Do you have any simple tutorials for rotation or sliding meshing??

October 23, 2012, 05:46		#33
MrinalKR Member Mrinal K R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 47 Rep Power: 14	I need meshing tutorial. The available tutorials are problems in Fluent solver. Any tutorial is available for meshing in gambit related to moving mesh/rotation?

October 23, 2012, 06:12		#34
-mAx- Super Moderator Maxime Perelli Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 3,297 Rep Power: 41	http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/gamb...uide/tgtoc.htm MrinalKR likes this. __________________ In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider

October 23, 2012, 06:49		#36
-mAx- Super Moderator Maxime Perelli Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 3,297 Rep Power: 41	there is a tool for checking mesh quality in gambit: http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/gamb....htm#gc_exmesh __________________ In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider

October 23, 2012, 07:01		#37
MrinalKR Member Mrinal K R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 47 Rep Power: 14	Thank you.. Actually there will be no persons for helping. That why asking doubts like this. I'm new to all the cfd modelings. Now i got some idea about (theory) SRF,MRF,sliding mesh and dynamics mesh. Once again thank you.. :-)

October 31, 2012, 03:39		#39
-mAx- Super Moderator Maxime Perelli Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 3,297 Rep Power: 41	you need to set rotation speed on annulus domain, but no rotation to inner circle (solid), since it already belongs to the annulus domain (and consequently has rotation speed) your last method won't work. The easiest way would be to set only the inner circle with velocity (but without moving grid) __________________ In memory of my friend Hervé: CFD engineer & freerider

October 31, 2012, 03:54		#40
MrinalKR Member Mrinal K R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 47 Rep Power: 14	But the clearance is very less then how can i make annulus region and meshing it??

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