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 Das April 5, 2013 01:01

periodic boundary condition for a rectangular duct domain

Hi all,

I am new to CFD and i m doing a work on the film cooling on a flat plate, and i used gambit for modelling a 3D rectangular geometry as a domain. The bottom face of the rectangular duct is the taken as the test plate.

I gave the following boundary conditions:-

1. duct inlet > Velocity inlet
2. duct outlet> pressure outlet
3. test plate > wall
4. Top side> wall( opp face of test plate)
5. right side face> symmetry
6. left side face> Periodic

After that i did export > mesh, but the file is not exporting successfully.:confused:

It is showing some errors with the periodic boundary condition,
warn: boundary entity periodic side shadow does not contain any valid entity and is not written.
error: periodic boundary entities are not specified on the same boundary entity.

 -mAx- April 5, 2013 08:44

 Das April 5, 2013 12:47

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thanks for showing interest to help me, sir
here i m attaching its sketch...

i did this in gambit...
for the left face of the duct i want to giv periodic boundary condition.:confused:

how can I resolve it...sir

 -mAx- April 5, 2013 13:10

can show where is the periodic BC on the picture?
Periodicity has some rules to be well defined
Anyway your splits around your cylinder are wrong, since it will generate skewed cells.

 Das April 7, 2013 05:14

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i gave periodic boundary condition for the flat side(opposite to the face having semicircle groove) of the rectangular domain.

sir, here i m supposed to model a film cooling over a falt plate.

in actual experimental setup consist of a rectangular duct with a test plate at the base portion of the rectangle, where the test plate contains certain number of holes inclined at 35 deg to the streamwise direction. hot stream of air is fed through the inlet pace of the rectangle while coolant air is blown through inclined holes.

for reducing the iteration, i took one half of the coolant hole for modelling...

here i m attaching the top view of the test plate of actual experimental setup.

that section shown by dotted line is taken in to consideration for the simulation.

 -mAx- April 8, 2013 01:48

ok
Then you shouldn't use the symetry, and you have to model the reflected zone.
Thus, as I said, periodic BC has some rules: mesh from both periodic surfaces has to be linked, and you should give at least 2 surfaces (not coplanar) in the BC set
check this tutorial: http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/flue.../tg/node26.htm

 Das April 9, 2013 05:08

thank you...sir:)

 niloogh May 23, 2013 07:21

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by -mAx- (Post 418972) ok Then you shouldn't use the symetry, and you have to model the reflected zone. Thus, as I said, periodic BC has some rules: mesh from both periodic surfaces has to be linked, and you should give at least 2 surfaces (not coplanar) in the BC set check this tutorial: http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/flue.../tg/node26.htm
hi max
would you please take a look at my geometry.
i don't know to use symmetry BC or periodic for the surfaces which i had labeled in the photo:confused:

it is a 120 degree model of a wind turbine.

 -mAx- May 23, 2013 08:01

periodic: all surfaces which belongs to plane (yz) are supposed to be mesh-linked with the surfaces which belongs to 120°-rotated (yz)
That means that both suface-groups have exactly same mesh, which allows you to use periodicity.
Now I don't remember how to define the periodic BC: all surfaces as one BC, or each plane as a BC, etc...
But I think, you only need one BC

 niloogh May 23, 2013 08:30

Quote:
 Originally Posted by -mAx- (Post 429496) periodic: all surfaces which belongs to plane (yz) are supposed to be mesh-linked with the surfaces which belongs to 120°-rotated (yz) That means that both suface-groups have exactly same mesh, which allows you to use periodicity. Now I don't remember how to define the periodic BC: all surfaces as one BC, or each plane as a BC, etc... But I think, you only need one BC

you mean,after meshing all the volume,i must go to "link face meshes" panel and choose the faces which are going to be linked??

and i don't know to choose what for vertices which are needed in this panel???:confused:

 -mAx- May 23, 2013 09:14

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no before meshing the volume. Thus you will have to modify the surface mesh.
I confirm you need to set all your periodic surfaces as one periodic BC (in my case the 4 color surfaces)
Attachment 22045

 niloogh May 23, 2013 16:23

Quote:
 Originally Posted by -mAx- (Post 429513) no before meshing the volume. Thus you will have to modify the surface mesh. I confirm you need to set all your periodic surfaces as one periodic BC (in my case the 4 color surfaces) Attachment 22045
i had done it successfully but

after using this mesh in fluent and starting itarating i recived this message:
Error: divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Error: divergence detected in AMG solver: x-momentum
Error: divergence detected in AMG solver

why is that?
is that related to my mesh???

 -mAx- May 24, 2013 01:13

could be many things
Check all your BC (set up).
If you don't see anything, then you may try to set your periodic BC as wall, and iterate (just to see if it comes from periodicity).
And off course a check mesh

 niloogh May 24, 2013 04:34

Quote:
 Originally Posted by -mAx- (Post 429677) could be many things Check all your BC (set up). If you don't see anything, then you may try to set your periodic BC as wall, and iterate (just to see if it comes from periodicity). And off course a check mesh
i,m sure that it comes from my periodic boundary.
because when i used symmetry instead of periodic.i did,t have this problem.

 -mAx- May 24, 2013 04:52

how did you set it?

 niloogh May 24, 2013 05:24

Quote:
 Originally Posted by -mAx- (Post 429716) how did you set it?
i linked the faces as you said just without ticking the periodic in "link face meshes" panel.
after that i meshed all of my volume with tetra.and set the periodic for every both linked faces and saved it as mesh and sent it to fluent.

 -mAx- May 24, 2013 05:31

I meant how did you set it in fluent?
http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/flue...4.htm#Periodic

 niloogh May 24, 2013 05:43

Quote:
 Originally Posted by -mAx- (Post 429725) I meant how did you set it in fluent? http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/flue...4.htm#Periodic
I set it as rotational.and i didn't do any thing else in fluent for this bc.

 -mAx- May 24, 2013 06:05

what gives your a check mesh?

 niloogh May 24, 2013 06:18

Quote:
 Originally Posted by -mAx- (Post 429732) what gives your a check mesh?
Grid Check

Domain Extents:
x-coordinate: min (m) = -1.194447e+005, max (m) = -1.000000e+002
y-coordinate: min (m) = -1.680000e+005, max (m) = 6.120000e+005
z-coordinate: min (m) = -1.200000e+005, max (m) = 6.000000e+004
Volume statistics:
minimum volume (m3): 1.474610e+002
maximum volume (m3): 2.305678e+012
total volume (m3): 1.166610e+016
Face area statistics:
minimum face area (m2): 5.263843e+000
maximum face area (m2): 3.819772e+008
Checking number of nodes per cell.
Checking number of faces per cell.
Checking number of cells per face.
Checking face cells.
Checking bridge faces.
Checking right-handed cells.
Checking face handedness.
Checking face node order.
Checking element type consistency.
Checking boundary types:
Checking face pairs.
Checking periodic boundaries.
Zone 6: x-translation: min (m) = 0.000000e+000, max (m) = 1.029000e+005
y-translation: min (m) = 0.000000e+000, max (m) = 0.000000e+000
z-translation: min (m) = -1.800000e+005, max (m) = 0.000000e+000
Zone 8: x-translation: min (m) = -1.029000e+005, max (m) = 0.000000e+000
y-translation: min (m) = -3.955078e-002, max (m) = 3.878906e+000
z-translation: min (m) = 0.000000e+000, max (m) = 1.800000e+005
Zone 10: x-translation: min (m) = -1.029000e+005, max (m) = 0.000000e+000
y-translation: min (m) = 0.000000e+000, max (m) = 0.000000e+000
z-translation: min (m) = 0.000000e+000, max (m) = 1.800000e+005
Checking node count.
Checking nosolve cell count.
Checking nosolve face count.
Checking face children.
Checking cell children.
Checking storage.
Done.

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