faces are missorinted.. repair holes
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Dear experts, I have a small problem , it took long time for solving and i couldn't solve it :( When I run the mesh ( Tetra, unstructured and Robust (octree) meshing techniques) a massage appeared in monitored screen "faces are missorinted" and then ICEM show me "repair holes" massage box "image1" Notes: 1-There is no holes in my geometry (it a single blade inside a big 120o enclosure sector) and i am also run "repair geometry" before 2-The zone where the problem originates is >> a common edges between two couple of surface "image2" 3- I searched in cfd-online search for " faces are missorinted" but I found only one thread and it was useless for me :( Finally, I attached the Icem file Thanks in advance |
Any help pls.
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- set proper mesh sizes on all surfaces or parts, especially in the hub region
- delete all points and curves permanently - run "Build Diagnostic Topology" with the default value it gives you - set curve sizes (this is not a must) - then run octree again Edit: When defining intersecting thin cuts, remember to have the curve between the two parts in another part. |
The holes is right here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35161486/hole.JPG can you fix it ??? just delete that green surface and create surface from curve... Let me know if you can't |
wait sorry that was not a hole. i did check the full geometry. let me investigate more
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As Ali said it seems that that surface was a problem, but by inactive/active that surface, the problem is gone!
One of the edges is not associated well. I chose build up topology of 0.001 and it was corrected. I then run Octree mesh. There was no problem. I use Ansys v14.5. |
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I think there is no actual hole in the geometry. The problem may occur from topology and inproper mesh sizes. Try my suggested method, it works. I have attached the corrected files. Now, just set more mesh sizes to capture every detail of your geometry.
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in my case the problem came from the thin cut, i added inter1 to pressure-side and inter2 to suction-side and the problem is gone.
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I tried this method But it didn't work also Then i tried the 2nd method you stated it (below) Quote:
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i tried many times to separate them in fluent but i failed (On the contrary, merge is an easy process in fluent) thanks again |
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Wait, I think i found a hole in the geometry. There is a short gap between pressure and suction side of the blade. Octree does not mind the gap as long as elements are big enough.
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In ICEM it is very hard to fix. First you could go back to your CAD tool and try to fix it. Or try another exchange format.
You can also reverse the normal process. You can extract geometry from an existing mesh. I gave it a short try and it worked. Not all areas are good. So you could develope a mesh with your old geometry that, - closes the gap - represent other geometry well and then extract new geometry from this mesh. |
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Anyawy I will try other exchange format, thanks Kad |
I think it is possible to export solidworks geometry directly from solidworks to Designmodeler and from there to ICEM via workbenchreader. Maybe you have to adjust your CAD configuration manager. Check this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yyPC9gXZZ8 Or you can only use the workbenchreader in ICEM for solidworks data. This should be somehow more "lossless" because you avoid converting back and forth. |
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Hi, All
I forced to change the mesh size specially on blade surface (for accurate mesh presentaion on Fluent and hence accurate results) , So Massage appears again "repair holes" if i press YES a internal screen massage of "faces are missorinted" However i upload the new ICEM file (http://www.4shared.com/rar/0WbPTjkJ/Gometry.html) , I ask for a definitive solution for this problem Thanks in advance |
I forgot to say that i'm tired all the above ways to avoid the problem BUT the error still continue
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