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Old   September 4, 2010, 16:09
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Hi All,

I want to give periodicity in this airfoil. But when i select two vertices it give me meaage: "The periodic trnasformation has not been set in th tetin file cannot make nodes 13 and 11 periodic"

What does it mean , i did basically translate one boundary on y-axis. Now want to make it periodic.

Kindly help me out.

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Old   September 5, 2010, 01:23
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you should first define periodicity in global mesh setup panel, then you can make the vertices periodic when editing the blocks. Have a try!
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Old   October 11, 2011, 03:40
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Dear zeitistgeld,

In 2D what does it mean "Blocking"? Where are the 4 vertices? In 2D I have two edges which are in opposite sides and I want to make them periodic. For instance I want to make a periodic TOP and BOTTOM edges in my 2D rectangular CAD model and they have just 2 vertices not 4 and when I try to define the same vertices twice it complains about node indices or something like this.

I don't understand the logic. Could you please let me know how can define a block for 2D case?

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Old   October 11, 2011, 04:05
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If you have a rectangle, then you make block with the option "2d planar" and get 4 vertices (2 pairs of vertices).
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/att...1&d=1318319894
In the global mesh setup, set the geometry as translational periodic in the y direction as you want (see below)
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/att...1&d=1318320066
In the edit block panel, set the periodic pairs of vertices, totally you have to make 2 pairs of vertices since it is 2 dimensional.(1 1 1->1 2 1, 2 1 1->2 2 1)
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/att...1&d=1318320098
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/att...1&d=1318320130
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Old   October 11, 2011, 04:17
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Thanks for your quick reply. I am going to do your comments.
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Old   October 11, 2011, 05:22
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As I work in ICEM CFD 13, I didn't get your red arrows to show the periodicity in y direction. In "Global Mesh Parameters=>Priodicity=>Translational" there is a "offset" parameter that I think shows the direction of the periodicity. I don't know what does really mean?

I checked the mesh quality for periodicity in TOP and BOTTOM edges and it says that "Running diagnostics for Periodic problems in subset "all" no problems found"

is it ok?
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Old   October 11, 2011, 09:17
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The problem is still there. I Think it is a little bit different with ANSYS 12. Editing the vertices made me angry. Maybe there is a trick that I don't figure out. I attached step-by-step what I did.

I don't know how should specify that 2-points (in two opposite edges) are periodic because it didn't ask anything about the input order of the points and just ask 4-vertices all the time. Let say for instance 0,1,2,3 are my input vertices (corners of my rectangle). How Ansys knows which one is periodic with 0?
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Old   October 11, 2011, 11:17
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Hi,

I think I got your procedure now, the only problem is when I define 2 pairs of verticed and then I push the "Apply" button, I get this message: "No 2 vertices selected". and when I want to select the vertices again it complains about: "nodes are already periodic twins of each other".

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Old   October 12, 2011, 01:41
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I think you have made the vertices periodic since the message popped up saying "already periodic twins". To check out, right click vertex on the left hand dirctory tree and tick up "show periodic", something like that, you will see the red arrows indicating periodic pairs of vertices. Good luck!
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Old   October 12, 2011, 03:19
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Many thanks for your patient and help.
You are right. now I can see the arrows.
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