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Old   September 19, 2007, 15:56
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Hi everyone,

Some of you may be aware of Mirko Javurek's "Scheme Programmierung in Fluent" (German language) document that describes how to use the Scheme language within Fluent. I have an English translation that Mirko has agreed to license under the GFDL for inclusion in the Wiki, and I am wondering where to put it in the Wiki (perhaps a better description would be "primary linking location"?). It seems to me that the best place to put it would be under the "Special Topics" section. However, since it is specific to Fluent, a more Fluent-specific location might be better. Does anyone have any comments/suggestions/opinions?

This is just a matter of linking, and since linking can always be changed it is perhaps not all that important - but I would like feedback all the same.

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Old   September 20, 2007, 03:56
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Since it is a FLUENT specific topic I think that the most natural place to link to it is from the FLUENT page on http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/FLUENT and from relevant questions in the FLUENT FAQ on http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Fluent_FAQ

If it is a large document it could also be made into a wiki book to get better navigation, like we are doing with the turbulence introduction section now.
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Old   September 25, 2007, 20:55
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I agree that linking off of the Fluent page makes sense - but in my opinion that buries it a bit, and I would like to have a link that is "closer" to the top level, if that makes any sense. That is why I suggested the Special Topics section. I would like to link to it from both places, actually.

I don't know about the book format, as it may not be large enough to warrant that. The PDF version is currently 15 pages or so (which may or may not expand to include some long tables). Maybe the book decision can be left until after it is in the wiki.

Also, since I have gotten requests for the document (and not just from you, H.A.S), the answer for now is "No, please be patient". The editing is nearly done, and once the final non-wiki version is complete, I'll start putting it in the wiki. The PDF version will probably also be made available someplace. I'll probably make a post about that over in the Fluent forum. I hope that this will all take place soon.

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Old   September 26, 2007, 02:51
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I'll think a bit more about how we can "bring forward" the links to it. As you said we can change the linking to it after it is in CFD-Wiki. One way to make it more visible could be to let it be the "Featured article" on the front page for a few months. That should help make all Fluent users more aware of it.
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Old   May 11, 2008, 23:44
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To all the folks who keep begging for this elusive English translation: read jasond's second post. It doesn't sound like he intends to e-mail you. Personally, I don't speak German, so when I first found "Scheme-Programmierung in FLUENT 5 & 6," I was reluctant to use it. Subsequently, I've been reading up on Scheme in general, and came to the conclusion that the German document is most useful as a listing of Fluent's Scheme functions, rather than complete documentation for the usage of each one.

By the way, said function listing will be revealed to you for your specific installation, albeit in a *really long* single line of text, if you type (the-environment) at Fluent's commandline.

Luckily, many of the function names are descriptive enough to allow you to surmise their intended usage.

I'm a postgrad thinking of using Fluent for research into hydro power generation, and would like to make it easier to run sets of repetitive design studies, which is where these Scheme functions would seem to prove useful. (Don't even get me started about doing similar tasks in Gambit's journals for the meshing part of it.) I contacted our Fluent distributor in Australia to request documentation for these functions, but was told that they themselves had been asking for this documentation directly from Fluent for several years to no avail, so the future does not look bright here.

For me, this is a forehead-slapping moment where I realize the benefits of open (not to mention free) software versus commercial. I mean, my university is paying through the nose for software we can't even get documentation for. What gives? At this point, I'm seriously considering moving to something like OpenFOAM that will be a little more cooperative in terms of documentation. There's a port for FreeBSD, too. Yea!

Good luck all.
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Old   March 23, 2009, 19:34
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I found myself needing some scheme documentation last week and as everybody this German version was the first thing I found. As I saw that the English version was not available I used some spare time I made a translation:
http://www.polo.ufsc.br/~tiagom/documents/scheme-programing.pdf
It is not well formatted and there are probably some mistranslations, but I think it is better than nothing. I hope it helps.
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Old   June 8, 2009, 13:43
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Good job, los!

Thanks a lot!

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I found myself needing some scheme documentation last week and as everybody this German version was the first thing I found. As I saw that the English version was not available I used some spare time I made a translation:
http://www.polo.ufsc.br/~tiagom/documents/scheme-programing.pdf
It is not well formatted and there are probably some mistranslations, but I think it is better than nothing. I hope it helps.
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Old   October 16, 2009, 04:39
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Hello everybody,
There is a new FAQ topic on the wiki dealing with this subject http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Fluen...environment.3F.
A list with all the functions and variables in the Fluent environment (few of them with explanations) is coming along.
This is just a start, please contribute the list of examples with your own findings.

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