How to get the vortex frequency

mohammad · August 31, 2012, 11:15

Dear all,
I have simulated a finite span S809 blade with DES using transient simulation.

For analyzing the noise generated by the vortical system, I need to have the vortex shedding frequency of the simulation...

Can anyone tell me how to get (calculate) it in the post processing of the results?

Tnx in advance

ghorrocks · September 1, 2012, 07:33

Put a monitor point (of a few points) somewhere at the edge of your domain and output pressure there. You can get the simulated pressure variation (ie noise) from that.

mohammad · September 1, 2012, 10:52

Dear Glenn Horrocks,

I forgot to add a piece of information which might be important....
My case is a Synthetic Jet Actuator case, and I monitored the lift and drag fluctuations duiring the transient run, My non-dimensional frequecy is F+ = 0.97, thus the lift and drag frequncy are the same and is very near to the actuator frequency.
We know that the Lift is the direct result of the pressure distribution.
Now my question is: " Can I safely say the vortex shedding frequency is the Lift and Drag frequency? "

Regards

ghorrocks · September 2, 2012, 19:19

I have no idea - this is your research so how am I going to know that? It is up to you to work that out.

mohammad · September 2, 2012, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghorrocks

I have no idea - this is your research so how am I going to know that? It is up to you to work that out.

Anyhow, I highly appreciate your favor

D.B · September 5, 2012, 05:16

Hi,
From what I know, it is not necessary that the lift drag fluctuation frequency is same as vortex shedding frequency. As glenn said you could check it with your monitor point plot minimum pressure in a plane behind your geometry against time and find out the frequency from that.

August 31, 2012, 11:15	How to get the vortex frequency	#1
mohammad Senior Member mohammad Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: UK Posts: 245 Rep Power: 16	Dear all, I have simulated a finite span S809 blade with DES using transient simulation. For analyzing the noise generated by the vortical system, I need to have the vortex shedding frequency of the simulation... Can anyone tell me how to get (calculate) it in the post processing of the results? Tnx in advance Last edited by mohammad; September 1, 2012 at 10:42.

September 1, 2012, 10:52		#3
mohammad Senior Member mohammad Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: UK Posts: 245 Rep Power: 16	Dear Glenn Horrocks, I forgot to add a piece of information which might be important.... My case is a Synthetic Jet Actuator case, and I monitored the lift and drag fluctuations duiring the transient run, My non-dimensional frequecy is F+ = 0.97, thus the lift and drag frequncy are the same and is very near to the actuator frequency. We know that the Lift is the direct result of the pressure distribution. Now my question is: " Can I safely say the vortex shedding frequency is the Lift and Drag frequency? " Regards Last edited by mohammad; September 2, 2012 at 23:54.

September 5, 2012, 05:16		#6
D.B Member DB Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 87 Rep Power: 15	Hi, From what I know, it is not necessary that the lift drag fluctuation frequency is same as vortex shedding frequency. As glenn said you could check it with your monitor point plot minimum pressure in a plane behind your geometry against time and find out the frequency from that. __________________ -D.B

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September 1, 2012, 07:33		#2
ghorrocks Super Moderator Glenn Horrocks Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,700 Rep Power: 143	Put a monitor point (of a few points) somewhere at the edge of your domain and output pressure there. You can get the simulated pressure variation (ie noise) from that.

September 2, 2012, 19:19		#4
ghorrocks Super Moderator Glenn Horrocks Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,700 Rep Power: 143	I have no idea - this is your research so how am I going to know that? It is up to you to work that out.