CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > CFX

CFX Solver manager runs for a long time!!

Register Blogs Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By JuPa

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   May 14, 2013, 03:23
Smile CFX Solver manager runs for a long time!!
  #1
New Member
 
Candy
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 12
Amoul is on a distinguished road
Hello Guys,
I cannot understand why the solver takes a long time (more than 2 hours) in the running process and how I can know whether the running is converging or diverging
PS: I am using an SST model with a steady state solution.
Thank you
Amoul is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 04:23
Default
  #2
Senior Member
 
Matthias Voß
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Berlin, Germany
Posts: 449
Rep Power: 20
mvoss is on a distinguished road
you can look at the convergence history by looking at the graphs in the solver monitor. (right click on Solution in WB2.0 or opening the CFX-Launcher-->Solver--> Monitor Run in Progress)
since you state 2h is a long time to run i assume you´re fairly new to this field.
for the future: please provide just a little bit more info.
mvoss is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 04:35
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Candy
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 12
Amoul is on a distinguished road
Thanks,
Absolutely! I´m new to ANSYS
For more info: I am working on a cooling technique using staggered Pin fins within a rectangular duct.
I have to simulate the flow field.
Then, I should calculate the friction factor (from the pressure drop) and the heat transfer coefficient.
PS: I am using CFX in stand-alone mode not the WB

Last edited by Amoul; May 14, 2013 at 09:02.
Amoul is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 04:39
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
Matthias Voß
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Berlin, Germany
Posts: 449
Rep Power: 20
mvoss is on a distinguished road
you should definitely do some of the basic tutorials before starting your simulation. Check your convergence settings. If the simulations runs for several hours WITHOUT reaching the BASIC convergence settings, then there´s smth. wrong. Mesh, TimeStep, BC.
mvoss is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 04:49
Default
  #5
New Member
 
Candy
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 12
Amoul is on a distinguished road
it is actually my question: How can I check the convergence settings?
I have already done basic tutorials: they do not explain how to check this. They directly move on to the CFX post without explaining the results of CFX solver manager :/
Amoul is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 06:20
Default
  #6
Senior Member
 
JuPa's Avatar
 
Mr CFD
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Britain
Posts: 361
Rep Power: 14
JuPa is on a distinguished road
2 hours?

I've heard of people who run simulations for 3 weeks on 24 cores!
hmasenger likes this.
JuPa is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 06:41
Default
  #7
Senior Member
 
Matthias Voß
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Berlin, Germany
Posts: 449
Rep Power: 20
mvoss is on a distinguished road
please post a pic of your solver monitors. this will make it way easier.
mvoss is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 08:20
Default
  #8
Super Moderator
 
Glenn Horrocks
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 17,692
Rep Power: 143
ghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really nice
Yes, 2 hours is a bit laughable - I have run simulations which went for 6 weeks.

But you always approach big simulations with care. Do all your homework first to make sure you are not wasting your time. Run a small simulation to check things are working. Do all the necessary sensitivity checks so you know you will get it right the first time. And do lots of practise on smaller simulations before you commit to the big simulations.
ghorrocks is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 08:42
Question
  #9
New Member
 
Candy
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 12
Amoul is on a distinguished road
Please find here attached my solver window.
It is the simulation of the flow within a rectangular duct containing staggered pin fins.
*Model: SST
*Steady state solution
*5% turbulence intensity


Would you please tell me how could I check the sensitivity and the convergence settings of my solver knowing that i am using CFX stand-alone mode?
Thank you!

PS: Actually, it takes much more than 2 hours (maybe days, who knows ´cause I have not waited till the solver stops because I don t know how I can be sure that it is running correctly (it s converging) )
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Bildschirmfoto4.jpg (50.8 KB, 36 views)

Last edited by Amoul; May 14, 2013 at 08:58.
Amoul is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 12:01
Default
  #10
Senior Member
 
hmasenger's Avatar
 
hamed
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 148
Rep Power: 17
hmasenger is on a distinguished road
it is converged for basic tasks like getting rough results and initial conditions fo furture runs .10e-4 is enough for this purpuse but to have accurate results you whould let solver goes for RMS bellow 10e-5 or10e-6
hmasenger is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 14, 2013, 20:10
Default
  #11
Super Moderator
 
Glenn Horrocks
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 17,692
Rep Power: 143
ghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really nice
As Hamed has said, your simulation has converged a little bit but then stalled. This FAQ discusses what to consider next: http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Ansys...gence_criteria
ghorrocks is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 15, 2013, 04:05
Wink Thank you!
  #12
New Member
 
Candy
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 12
Amoul is on a distinguished road
I would like to thank all of you for your help! I appreciate this
Amoul is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
pimpleFoam: turbulence->correct(); is not executed when using residualControl hfs OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 3 October 29, 2013 08:35
How to write k and epsilon before the abnormal end xiuying OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 8 August 27, 2013 15:33
CFX Solver Manager famarcfd CFX 5 June 17, 2012 19:33
Modeling in micron scale using icoFoam m9819348 OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 7 October 27, 2007 00:36
CFX 5.5 Roued CFX 1 October 2, 2001 16:49


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:57.