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Old   July 28, 2013, 20:46
Default 6DOF motion of rigid body in ANSYS-CFX14
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I want to model a merged body in water flow in CFX and it needs to remeshing. Can I use the ICEM for remeshing in this problem?
The motion of rigid body in this case contains rotation and translation together. Can anyone help me?
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Old   July 29, 2013, 00:16
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Yes, you can remesh using ICEM.

If you explain what you are trying to do maybe we can help you.
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Old   July 29, 2013, 03:50
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Thanks Glenn for your response
I want move the merged cubic in the flow that contains translational and "rotational" movement.
I have read that ICEM supports translational movement only, is it true or ICEM is capable to remeshing rotational movement?
What's your suggestion between ICEM and WORKBENCH's remeshing?
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I have not used either remeshing techniques so cannot answer you. Hopefully some others on the forum can answer this.
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ICEM can do what you are asking. But the remesh is USER DEFINED.

I assume your motion is not fully prescribed, but rather part of the solution. In that case when you interrupt for a your whatever condition you are interrupting for, send the results file to pre to get the latest geometry, write out a def file, read that def file into icem, convert the mesh to faceted geometry, blow away the new mesh, remesh the geometry, write out the new mesh and continue.

If you dont know ICEM scripting, this can be daunting. Contact ANSYS support for an example.
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ICEM can do what you are asking. But the remesh is USER DEFINED.

I assume your motion is not fully prescribed, but rather part of the solution. In that case when you interrupt for a your whatever condition you are interrupting for, send the results file to pre to get the latest geometry, write out a def file, read that def file into icem, convert the mesh to faceted geometry, blow away the new mesh, remesh the geometry, write out the new mesh and continue.

If you dont know ICEM scripting, this can be daunting. Contact ANSYS support for an example.
dear singer
i agree with you that's an option but i think there are more options
i believe workbench re-meshing is more helpful because you don't need watch the solving process and re-meshing works automatically.as far as i know ICEM does not support re-meshing for rotational motion (cfx_ref page 70)
i suppose workbench re-meshing is more general.
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ICEM can do what you are asking. But the remesh is USER DEFINED.

I assume your motion is not fully prescribed, but rather part of the solution. In that case when you interrupt for a your whatever condition you are interrupting for, send the results file to pre to get the latest geometry, write out a def file, read that def file into icem, convert the mesh to faceted geometry, blow away the new mesh, remesh the geometry, write out the new mesh and continue.

If you dont know ICEM scripting, this can be daunting. Contact ANSYS support for an example.


Hi Singer1812
Do you mean that I read def file by the ICEM for any remesh of domain and so repeat remeshing?
While after the remeshing step by CFX and stopping solution, don't see rotational movement of body in def file! In other word, geometry returns to the first state and don't remesh for rotational movement.
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You need to pass the geometry through CFXPRE first. ICEM cant read the updated geom after mesh motion in a run. You bring the res file into pre, it will have the right geom update, and then write out a def file that will be pulled into ICEM.
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You need to pass the geometry through CFXPRE first. ICEM cant read the updated geom after mesh motion in a run. You bring the res file into pre, it will have the right geom update, and then write out a def file that will be pulled into ICEM.


Hi Singer1812
Thank you for your replay
So, do you tell me for every remeshing process, we must repeat this steps?
Can't it performs automatically?
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Dear Singer1812, I don't know how prepare the script file for send the res file to pre and write out a def file. Can you help me?
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ICEM can do what you are asking. But the remesh is USER DEFINED.

I assume your motion is not fully prescribed, but rather part of the solution. In that case when you interrupt for a your whatever condition you are interrupting for, send the results file to pre to get the latest geometry, write out a def file, read that def file into icem, convert the mesh to faceted geometry, blow away the new mesh, remesh the geometry, write out the new mesh and continue.

If you dont know ICEM scripting, this can be daunting. Contact ANSYS support for an example.




Dear Singer1812, I don't know how prepare the script file for send the res file to pre and write out a def file. Can you help me?
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Dear Singer1812, I don't know how prepare the script file for send the res file to pre and write out a def file. Can you help me?
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Both CFX-Pre and ICEM can record your steps, but if you don't know where to start those tools will not be very helpfull. You'll also need some scripting to get the mesh back and forward between Pre and ICEM.

As Singer already said, this is not a straighforward thing to do and definitely not something that can be done through here. You really should contact you local ANSYS support team to help you with this.

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Would it not be easier just to use the mesh deformation tool within CFX?
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Both CFX-Pre and ICEM can record your steps, but if you don't know where to start those tools will not be very helpfull. You'll also need some scripting to get the mesh back and forward between Pre and ICEM.

As Singer already said, this is not a straighforward thing to do and definitely not something that can be done through here. You really should contact you local ANSYS support team to help you with this.

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Hi brunoc
Thanks for your replay. I do translational movement with ICEM but I can't remesh rotational movement. Via append the commands to already rpl file in Icem may be prepare some sectional of remeshing, isn't it?
Does it need to other scripts?

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Would it not be easier just to use the mesh deformation tool within CFX?



I need to remesh for this case because that inclusive great mesh deformation.
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Hello,Spring.s have you solve your problem? I am now modeling a reciprocating compressor, and I also have to get the mesh regenerated. However, Ieven don't know how to handle the translational part,can you give me some help?
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Hi Gwen

Sorry. I didn't understand.
What kind of problem do you have ???
Do you want remesh your geometry? Or Have you problem with movment of the piston?

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