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chancy September 3, 2015 13:29

Erosion and deposition model for turbidity currents
 
Dear all,

I am using ANSYS CFX to model 2D turbidity currents.
Geometry is a long flume with a length of 6 meters and for the width I used one cell for it to be 2D. The height of the flume is of 1m.
Mesh is of 9 mm.
I am using the Eulerian inhomogeneous model.
The SST (Shear Stress Turbulent) model is used to model turbulence.
An initial volumetric concentration of 2.5% is used for the mixture. For the particles I was obliged to use one diameter (mean diameter) because with these options I cannot enter a whole grain size distribution.

The current is well formed, but the only issue concerns sediment transport. In experimental tests, I have a high deposition of the current while this numerical model does not deposit...In other words, if you add a well at the end of the model instead of a wall, ALL the sediment will end up going out of the system while in real cases, a lot deposits before reaching the well.

I am quite lost how to solve this problem: many options:
1) is it the mesh size? Should it be smaller?
2) I cannot find a deposition/erosion equation used in the cfx code. Should I introduce it? If yes, is there a tutorial on how to modify CFX scripts?
3) Should I use the Lagragian model instead? But then is it possible to model turbulence very well?

I am looking forward to receiving your answer(s)!

Thank you :)

ghorrocks September 3, 2015 17:52

CFX does not have a particle deposition/scouring model. You cannot do this in CFX with either the Lagangian or Eularian models.

chancy September 3, 2015 18:00

Thank you for your answer ghorrocks. Is it possible to implement a few equations inside the code of CFX? Is it open for modification? If not, does FLUENT have such a model? If not, what do you recommend for such modeling?!

ghorrocks September 3, 2015 18:12

CFX (and Fluent) both have access to considerable flexibility so if you can define some equations which describe deposition/scouring then you might be able to implement it. But have a think about it - if it was easy to implement don't you think it would already be in there?

This question has been asked several times on the forum and nobody seems to have successfully done a deposition/scouring model with CFX. So if you want to model deposition/scouring then I would look at other CFD codes which support this. I have no idea if such a code exists as deposition/scouring is not my field of expertise.

hamide November 8, 2015 07:36

particle deposition
 
hi
i wanna model particle deposition in turbulent flow, and i can't understand the non-dimensional Gaussian random field to obtain the instantaneous fluctuation velocity field that affect particle movement.
would u please help me...

ghorrocks November 8, 2015 16:14

What don't you understand about it?

hamide November 9, 2015 01:22

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[QUOTE=ghorrocks;572496]What don't you understand about it?[/Q

it results a especial equation! i can't understand that equation!!!!

the equation is in the doc file i attached and it's the part of one paper i read ...

ghorrocks November 9, 2015 05:04

Follow the references back to the original definition of the equation. That is the standard thing to do when something does not explain it adequately.

But this just appears to be a function to generate a random velocity fluctuation in space and time for the components of velocity.

hamide November 9, 2015 05:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghorrocks (Post 572561)
Follow the references back to the original definition of the equation. That is the standard thing to do when something does not explain it adequately.

But this just appears to be a function to generate a random velocity fluctuation in space and time for the components of velocity.

thank you so much dear ghorrocks ....


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