Yplus values for walls in CFX4.4
Hello, How to work out the Yplus values for wall boundary conditions? For example, a structured mesh from CFX4.4, I know the first cell height of the mesh but not sure how to estimate Yplus values. What are the general criteria for the Yplus values using the wall function when two equations turbulence models applied (say kepsilon model)? Thank you for your help. Regards Forrest

Re: Yplus values for walls in CFX4.4
Hi Forrest,
It has been a long time since I used CFX4.4. I think you can get the y+ values put into the dump file by selecting it as an additional variable or something like that. I know it is discussed in the documentation so have a look there. CFX4.4 uses standard wall functions, meaning for the keps turbulence model it is only applicable for y+>11. That means there is actually a limit to the grid refinement you can do at the wall boundaries. There is no real upper limit to allowable y+ values (especially for high Reynolds number flows), but grid independance generally starts to fall apart at 100>y+>500. Regards, Glenn 
Re: Yplus values for walls in CFX4.4
Glenn,
Thank you for your reply. One more thing, if I import a CFX4.4 structured mesh into CFX5.6 and run it to get a results file, I can view the Yplus values using CFX5.6 Post. Can this be a way to examine Yplus for a structured mesh? Thank you again Regards, Forrest 
Re: Yplus values for walls in CFX4.4
Hi Forrest,
Assuming the results are the same between CFX4.4 and 5.6 then the y+ should be the same. Keep in mind that CFX5.6 by default uses different wall functions then 4.4, so if you want the results to be properly comparable you should run 5.6 with the same wall functions. Glenn 
Re: Yplus values for walls in CFX4.4
Actually, you'll not get the correct values in CFX5, because CFX5 is vertex based and CFX4 is cell centered. This means your y+ values in CFX4 will be roughly half the values in CFX5 (half the distance to the wall).
To estimate the y+ in CFX4, use the formula: y+ = density * Vmean * wall dist / viscosity This is good for a first cut at approximating what cell size you need at the walls given that the criteria of 30 < y+ < 100. To see the actual solver values, add a user scalar and name it 'YPLUS'. >>CFX4 :>OPTIONS . . USER SCALAR EQUATIONS 1 . :>VARIABLE NAMES USER SCALAR1 'YPLUS' You can then plot this scalar on the walls to see where the min and max are and where you might need to modify the grid. Hope this helps, Jeff 
Re: Yplus values for walls in CFX4.4
Hi, Glenn and Jeff
Thank you both very much for your comments. No further questions for Yplus now. Thanks again Regards, Forrest 
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