# Convergence tips

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 August 25, 2005, 12:02 Convergence tips #1 John Guest   Posts: n/a Hello,all In CFX10 help file, I found exactly the same convergence tips for multiphase modelling(bubble column) as in CFX5: (ANSYS CFX 10 Best Practices Guide for Multiphase, page 132): "Sometimes, physical instabilities (such as recirculation zones) can result in slow or stalled convergence. In these cases, you can still obtain an indicator of convergence for a global quantity by creating a monitor point at some point in the domain. As a result, you can determine whether values for selected global quantities (such as gas hold-up) are meaningful." Does this mean that the convergence critira(eg. RMS) is not so important(or critical) for multiphase problems? I asked the same question in a previous post, but I still fell confused about these words. The answer to this question is important to my current work. I would appreciate your inputs! Regards! John

 August 26, 2005, 09:49 Re: Convergence tips #2 John Guest   Posts: n/a It may be a naive question but I hope someone can explain it. In literatures I did see some people use liquid height level(eg. for sieve trays) or holdup as indicator parameters to terminate the run. Regards! John

 August 28, 2005, 00:41 Re: Convergence tips #3 Jeff Guest   Posts: n/a Multiphase simulations are, by nature, tansient. However, the transients can be very localized. Usually this is due to small flow oscillations or oscillating bubble streams. When this happens, the RMS residuals will drop to a certain level and then show a repeating oscillating pattern. The residuals can't be reduced any further because there simply isn't a non-oscillating steady-state solution. You have two recourses: 1) after the residuals have "bottomed out", plot velocities at various locations, and total gas volume (hold up). When these values become steady, or reach a repeatable oscillating "pseudo-steady-state" pattern, you're probably converged. 2) Switch the simulation to transient, and plot the same monitor points as for the steady-state run until they reach a pseudo-steady-state behavior. I prefer this method, since I can show that my transient residuals are 10^-5 or lower, and that a stable solution has been reached through the monitor point values. Hope this helps. Jeff

 August 28, 2005, 01:15 Re: Convergence tips #4 John Guest   Posts: n/a Nice comments. Thanks again, Jeff I have recently switched to transient simulation, and observed same convergence level as you mentioned(sometime can be as low as 10^-6). What I am worry about is the simulatously conducted tracer simulation. I still haven't tried much, but some initial results showed that the tracer curves are not smooth. Could you suggest a best way of tracer simulation for transient multiphase flow? Best regards! John

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