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March 6, 2006, 12:13 
Newtons Method failed to converge in 100 iteration

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I get the error "Newton's Method failed to converge in 100 iterations...." for "Temperature" with location "Vertices".
The error is displayed a few times and soon the solver stops. How do I go about debugging this? 

March 7, 2006, 16:56 
Re: Newtons Method failed to converge in 100 itera

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Newton's method ? sounds like a Finite Element problem, this is CFD site.


March 8, 2006, 08:26 
Re: Newtons Method failed to converge in 100 itera

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Hi Ogbeni,
I know this is a cfd site and CFX forum. I guess every cfx user must have encountered this error at some point when using the CFX Solver. The exact error goes like: ****** Notice ******   Newtons method failed to converge in 200 iterations. This   occured while computing the following variable:     Variable Name : Temperature   Location Name : FluidZone   Mesh location : VERTICES   Mesh entity :   Last 3 Changes : 4.59189E+01 4.59189E+01 4.59189E+01   Tolerance : 1.0000E02     The Newton iteration was either slowly converging or has stalled.   The solver will continue with the variable set as it was on the   final iteration. If this situation continues you might try   increasing the number of iterations allowed for Newtons method.   This can be changed by setting one of the parameters:     Temperature : "Constitutive Relation Iteration Limit"   Pressure : "Newton Pressure Iteration Limit"     for your mixture using the definition file editor.  + 

March 10, 2006, 03:28 
Re: Newtons Method failed to converge in 100 itera

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The Newton iteration is used for calculation of thermodynamic properties of mixtures. How is your physical setup? What kind of fluid do you have? Without answers to that questions it is not possible to help you.


March 10, 2006, 10:36 
Re: Newtons Method failed to converge in 100 itera

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Thanks Joe. I had no idea that it is related to thermodynamic properties of mixtures.
Fluid: Mixture of 3 userdefined gases.(Variable Composition Mixture). [Cp(T),Thermal cond(T), Viscosity(T) have been defined as functions of temperature apart from the mol. wt. and other essential parameters] The setup basically consists of a cylinder with 3 inlets, one for each of the gases and an outlet. As I reduce the timestep(at the beginning of a run), the no. of iterations after which this error comes(and stops the solver) increases. However, for a very small timestep of the order of 5(approx. 1/10th of the autotimestep value) , this error seems to have vanished. Could this be because of wrongly defining the properties of the gases? or anything to do with the timestep? or anything else? 

March 10, 2006, 12:20 
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Yes, it could be that there is a mistake in your property defintion. Especially the cp values, as the problem is related to temperature. I would check them. If you have a result file or backfile make a chart cp over T.


March 13, 2006, 06:01 
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I also got this error message although I'm using CFX materials. A binary mixture of O2 and JetA. Cp is given in Nasa Format for both materials.
Does anybody have an idea what causes this error message? 

March 18, 2006, 07:30 
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JetA is that part of the cfx material properties data bases or is it your own data? If its your own data, check first the simple things like typos, dimensions etc.


October 31, 2010, 18:08 
newton method

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I am simulating multiphase flow of water injected into hot air stream and the water is supposed to evaporate. the materials are:
1.a variable mixture of air and water vapour 2.a variabl mixture of liquid and gas phase water air is continuous and water mixture is dispersed fluid. Interfacial equilibrium nodel is Raoults law. CFXPre settings are according the instructions in help. there is no errors in CFXPre. but while solving after a few iteration the temperature starts diverging reaching to 8e30 K. CFX solver prompts in every iteration that the newton method has been diverged after 100 iteration and user needs to change pressure or temperature underrelaxation in definition file editor (which i also dont know where it is)... appreciate ur help through this mess! Reza 

December 2, 2010, 07:41 

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 ****** Notice ******   Newtons method failed to converge in 150 iterations. This   occurred while computing the following variable:     Variable Name : Total Pressure   Location Name : inlet   Mesh location : BELG6   Mesh entity : VERTEX   Last 3 Changes : 2.42581E+01 2.42581E+01 2.42581E+01   Tolerance : 1.0000E+00     The Newton iteration was either slowly converging or has stalled.   The solver will continue with the variable set as it was on the   final iteration. If this situation continues you might try   increasing the number of iterations allowed for Newtons method.   This can be changed by setting one of the parameters:     Temperature : "Constitutive Relation Iteration Limit"   Pressure : "Newton Pressure Iteration Limit"     for your mixture using the definition file editor.  ++  HEnergy  1.01  3.6E04  2.4E02  5.5 3.5E02 OK ++++++  KTurbKE  0.99  1.9E04  6.4E03  5.5 1.5E02 OK  EDiss.K  1.00  4.3E04  1.5E02  7.2 9.5E04 OK ++++++ ++ I got this message when simulating the flow in exhaust of a steam turbine .The matiral used was wet steam. It became very hard to converge when the notice appear. Does anybdoy have a idea to handle it? 

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