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Eric January 24, 2007 05:47

about first layer thickness
 
Dear Friends,

I am using CFX-mesh to make the mesh. Could you tell me how to decide the first layer thickness?

The fluid in my simulation is compressible.

Thank you in advance.

Eric

Alejandro January 24, 2007 09:55

Re: about first layer thickness
 
Hi Eric,

What geometry are you simulating? A way to compute the thickness of the first elements near a wall is to estimate the height of the boundary layer. It depends on the geometry, but for example for airfoils, a good rule of thumb is to approximate the boundarylayer height, as the height of the BL for a flat plate, if your Re number is high enough so that you are in a turbulent regime, then the thickness can be estimated as d=0.14*Re^(-1/7)

So you capture the effects of the viscous sublayer, you should fit at least 15-20 elements within the BL, so a a good guess for the thickness of the first layers would be d/20 (20 extrusion layers, with a small expansion factor).

To decide if your choice is correct, you can also check the y+ values and compare with the ranges advised for the different turbulence models.

I hope it helps. Best regards,

AG.


John January 24, 2007 10:35

Re: about first layer thickness
 
Hi,

When you define the inflation layers in cfx-mesh, you can input the Y+ value and the Reynolds number of flow. The CFX-mesgh will automatically generate a first layer which can meet your requirements.

Regards,

Jone

Eric January 24, 2007 21:58

Re: about first layer thickness
 
Thank you very much. I will try it.


Eric February 4, 2007 09:29

Re: about first layer thickness
 
Dear Mr.Alejandro Thank you for your answering on the www.cfd-online.com about the thickness of Bounday Layer. Could you tell which book included this formula and the theory? Because I need reference to finish my paper. Thank you in advance.

Best Regards Eric

My e-mail: qiuyifa@hotmail.com

Alejandro February 5, 2007 05:08

Re: about first layer thickness
 
Hello Eric,

you can find reference to that formula (although the factor listed there is 0.16 instead of 0.14) in "Fluid Mechanics" White, F.

The chapter of interest is "Flow Past Immersed Bodies"

Best Regards, Alejandro.


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