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Erich September 10, 2007 11:56

Transient Model, Varying Mesh files...
 
Hello,

Is the only way to change mesh files in a transient run through the use of a Junction Box Routine?

Thanks for your input.

Erich

CycLone September 10, 2007 12:41

Re: Transient Model, Varying Mesh files...------We
 
Yes, but this can only be done if the mesh topology remains the same. If you want to run a transient where there is remeshing being done you will have to stop and restart the solver between meshes. This can usually be limited to a few key-meshes in a run, with mesh morphing handling the boundary motion in-between.

-CycLone

Erich September 10, 2007 14:44

Re: Transient Model, Varying Mesh files...------We
 
Thanks CycLone,

To what level will the mesh morphing usually go? Is this morphing defined only by mesh motion?

JH September 10, 2007 16:51

Re: Transient Model, Varying Mesh files...------We
 
CycLone means that you cannot change the initial mesh, just carefully move their nodes without degenerate the volumes that they conform. (for example: overlap two or more nodes)

CycLone September 10, 2007 16:53

Re: Transient Model, Varying Mesh files...
 
The mesh morphing can be pushed pretty far, but it will depend on what it is your doing. Motion can be defined at a boundary or expressions can be provided for the volume motion. The solver "diffuses" the motion through the rest of the mesh by solve a mesh diffusion equation, as opposed to using a spring analogy.

In general it can't handle the complete collapse of a portion of the mesh (i.e. a valve closing), but you could get close. In some cases you can also modify the geometry slightly, such as adding a small "seat" for the valve mesh to collapse into, and add sliding interface along the side so only the moving portion needs to be compressed.

-CycLone

johnny September 10, 2007 23:03

Re: Transient Model, Varying Mesh files...------We
 
One of the tutorials covers reading in different meshes through a junction box routine. I think # 20 or 21.

Erich September 11, 2007 09:19

Re: Transient Model, Varying Mesh files...------We
 
Thanks for all of your contributions. I have gone through the tutorials. The problem we have will need the topology to change and the mesh deformation would be quite severe. I am leaning towards an approximation per CycLone to produce a 'design' cycle CFD model to look at the big picture.


johnny September 11, 2007 10:15

Re: Transient Model, Varying Mesh files...------We
 
If the mesh cannot be mapped, then you cannot use a Junction Box routine. You will need to stop your run, and interpolate the results on to your new mesh.


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