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Abduri November 29, 2008 04:56

Simulation of supersonic flows
 
Hi guys,

my simulation is about a flow of about Mach 6 to 7 over a ramp oder other arbitrary geometries. It is a transient simulation. Inlet speed, pressure and temperatures vary as a function of time.

1. I already had problem to run a steady-state calculation of Mach 7. My pressure here is just about 10 Pa. Temperature about 230K. I finally managed that somehow.

2. I took the steady-state, changed it to a transient simulation but it just won't work. It calculates the first timestep with a wierd number at P-Mass and at second timestep it already breaks down showing F at P-Mass. Courant number is above 999 (I know it is not a parameter for transient simulations).

I checked tutorials and tried everything. Changing Advection Schemes, chaning inlet turbulence setting from low (1%) to the other one. I also tried an adaptive timestep setting holding the Courant Number below 0.5 but first my timestep gets very very small and second it fails anyway after few timesteps. My mesh also seems to be alright.

What am I doing wrong? Whats the basic settings for transient supersonic problems? I somehow have the feeling it has to do with the pressure level I use, but my problems environment has a low pressure level starting with 10 Pa going up to pressure at sea level at end of simulation time. What pressures values do I need to set to simulate this? Maybe a high value for relative pressures?

Thank you very much for taking your time and your response! Greetings, Abduri

MP December 1, 2008 08:36

Re: Simulation of supersonic flows
 
Dear Abduri,

I think the CFX do not handle the supersonic flow correctly.

Regards

MOP

MP December 1, 2008 08:36

Re: Simulation of supersonic flows
 
Dear Abduri,

I think the CFX do not handle the supersonic flow correctly.

Regards

MP

Timon December 1, 2008 08:47

Re: Simulation of supersonic flows
 
Try tweaking with some solver options designed to deal with instabilities specifically associated with high speed flow. Turn on high speed numerics (switches on Carbuncle fix etc.), and increase the number of continuity loops performed (expert parameter "mass continuity loops = n". Furthermore try to get better initial conditions by increasing the velocity stepwise and restart with the results/

Glenn Horrocks December 1, 2008 20:50

Re: Simulation of supersonic flows
 
Rubbish. CFX can do supersonic flows. They can be tricky to get right - Timon has some good suggestions.

Glenn Horrocks

Abduri December 8, 2008 19:30

Re: Simulation of supersonic flows
 
Hi Guys,

thank you for your answers. It helped. Changed some settings and especially the mesh and it all works now.

Cheers, Abduri


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