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August 14, 2012, 09:31 |
2D cooling of wavy plate
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Vidit Sharma
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hey, I am doing a simulation on wavy plate with a hole on it and cold air is coming from the hole, mixing with hot air and making a film on the wall. I am using steady k-e viscous model realizable enhanced wall effects. I am running its mesh with above 5 lakh elements but the problem is that for low y+ i have made spacing near the wall very fine and after doing this even at 0.1 m/s velocity input its diverging even after decreasing the relax-parameters, what should i do? I need to run it at 248 m/s for hot air at 2066k and 95m/s for cold air at 516.6k
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August 14, 2012, 10:30 |
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Show us the domain and the mesh you created.
And be a bit more descriptice about the rest of the setup. |
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August 14, 2012, 11:08 |
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This is the mesh i am working on ... Below the wavy wall hot air is flowing from left to right and cold air is coming from the top of small chamber called plenum.
and flowing through the hole.... |
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August 14, 2012, 11:32 |
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Initially I am using first order equation.
Right curve is velocity-inlet, left is pressure outlet at atmospheric pressure, bottom is symmetry, top of the plenum is also velocity-inlet and rest of the curves are wall with default properties. |
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August 14, 2012, 11:37 |
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I have done meshing in ICEM and the quality is also 0.9 and the spacing near wall is very fine.
The dimensions of the model are: length- 1000mm height-200mm diameter of hole- 1.2mm height of plenum- 9.37mm thickness of plenum- 2.4mm distance between the plenum and the wall is 1.2mm |
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August 14, 2012, 11:45 |
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I have also checked the Y+ after some iterations which is 0.9 maximum at hole as there is no wall and at rest of the wall it is 0.2
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August 15, 2012, 01:08 |
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How many cells do you have?
What is the size of you minimum cell? What is your time step and what is the period of the wave approximately? |
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August 15, 2012, 04:34 |
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Thank you for rply,
This mesh is having 5 lakh cells approximately The spacing near the wall is 0.67e-04 therefore near the hole the size of minimum cell is 0.67e-04*0.67e-04 Actually I am using steady solver therefore no time step just giving simple iterations.. r u asking period of the wavy plate...?? |
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August 15, 2012, 08:36 |
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I already had a divergence problem that I had solved increasing the viscosity also. it takes time but you play safe.
Run several simulations in this order for example 0.1m/s and 1 kg/m s 0.1m/s and 0.1 kg/m s 0.1m/s and 0.01 kg/m s ...... 0.1m/s and air = 1.7894e-05 kg/m s Then, increase the velocity from 0.1 to248 m/s progressively. If the first simulation of 0.1m/s and 1 kg/m s does not work, you don't have a solver problem. |
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August 15, 2012, 09:24 |
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thank you...
I will try that... |
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