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Hello,
I have one similified model for micro-channel heat exchanger. Please find the attachment of detailed discription.

only about 0.8 million meshes but quality is bad (several sharp angles near tangency area). Although I'm proficient in Gambit and know the skills to improve the volume mesh quality, I consider my problem as a common case and can be calculated without diverging issue.

So for saving time, I gave up to improve my meshes in all 6 options(1 baseline and 5 modified).

I choose SST-KW with low-RE correlation, and reduce relaxing factors. and what's important, I deactive energy equation for first-round iteration, and all 6 option got perfact results for flow and turbulence equations, converged at about 500 steps.
Then in second-round iteration, I deactive flow and turbulence while active energy equation. As usual, I reduce the convergence residual of energy equation to 1e-8, and add a monitor for mass-averaged temperature at outlet.

The monitored temperature seems change quickly in first 5-10 steps while became almost flat when residual is about 2e-7, then, every 5-6 step, the temperature will still increased by 0.01 degree C.

So I try to resuming the iteration, the residual curve of energy start rising. and then, temperature is out of limitation, that's a signal of divergence.

I found this problem happened in all the 6 options, since the final difference of monitored temperature of each option is smaller then 0.3-0.5 degree C. So in my simulation the results will influenced by whole iteration steps, I am afraid it can't reflect the actual phenomenon.
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There is no option other than improving your mesh. What's the temperate difference between the inlet and outlet? What is the Reynolds number based on channel width? What are the discretization schemes? You should try structured mesh for simple geometry.
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Reynolds number is about 250.
Temperature of air inlet is 35 deg C.
Temperature of heating wall is 50 deg C.

Air outlet temperature based on current CFD results is about 47 deg C.

SIMPLE method and second-order up-stream discretization is adopted except pressure (Standard)

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There is no option other than improving your mesh. What's the temperate difference between the inlet and outlet? What is the Reynolds number based on channel width? What are the discretization schemes? You should try structured mesh for simple geometry.
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The flow should be laminar. I did not compute but a 0.3-0.5K temperate different at the different results in large log mean temperature difference, right? The pressure difference is a much more useful indicator for mesh independence. Please find the pressure difference for all six cases.
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You have a conjugate heat transfer, along with not-so-simple flow passage- why do you say you know the simulation is a simple case? Shouldn't the mesh independence study, along with the quality improvement, be on the top of your to-do list?

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