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February 9, 2014, 09:29 |
How to fixing velocity from inlet to outlet?
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Hello I have a query to how i can make the inlet velocity value fixed from pipe inlet until pipe outlet? is that possible in Fluent? knowing that the flow is laminar?
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February 10, 2014, 12:39 |
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No one know how to answer my question?
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February 10, 2014, 14:34 |
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You could write a macro that patches the velocity at the beginning of every iteration.
But I am really curious what the application for such a "boundary" condition could be. |
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February 10, 2014, 15:46 |
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I gues you want to model fully developed flow. Try periodic boundary condition for inlet and outlet with specified mass flow http://aerojet.engr.ucdavis.edu/flue...g/node1355.htm .
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February 11, 2014, 01:32 |
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Hi Flotus thanks a lot for the answer. I need to ask did you have any tutorial about using macro within boundary conditions? I did not use this method before?
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February 11, 2014, 01:48 |
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I haven't tried this idea only read in manuals. Try putting inlet velocity at outflow place. I mean, have 2 inlet velocities. That inlet velocity which is is on the end give negative value. Like inlet 1 m/s and outlet -1 m/s.
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February 11, 2014, 01:55 |
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No i do not think this method is accurate because it give reverse flow error.
[QUOTE=zombiaska;474383]I haven't tried this ide a only read in manuals. Try putting inlet velocity at outflow place. I mean, have 2 inlet velocities. That inlet velocity which is is on the end give negative value. Like inlet 1 m/s and outlet -1 m/s.[/QUOTE] |
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February 11, 2014, 03:08 |
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If you told us what you want to simulate it would be much easier to give a helpful answer. I still dont get why one would want to enforce a constant velocity throughout the domain.
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February 11, 2014, 03:21 |
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Hello flotus thanks again for the answer. I want to do a pipe flow problem with constant heat flux at the wall I want to prove that Nusselt number is equal to 4.36 hence I need a fully developed flow from the inlet of the pipe until outlet in other word i do not want any increment in inlet velocity happen?
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February 11, 2014, 03:27 |
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Now that is a completely different situation than "i want a constant velocity from inlet to outlet".
Take a look at the tutorial "Modeling periodic flow and heat transfer" |
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February 11, 2014, 03:30 |
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Well i will look through it but did you think it will fulfill my case if i follow its procedure and give me the correct nusselt number?
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February 11, 2014, 03:35 |
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Of course you will have to transfer some of the techniques introduced in this tutorial to apply to your case. But a periodic flow is the only feasible way to simulate the Nusselt number of a fully developed flow.
Combine this with the advice you got in your other thread about Nusselt numbers in Fluent. |
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February 11, 2014, 03:52 |
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I have ANSYS FLUENT 14 I cannot find periodic conditions under define menu? where i can find this option?
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February 11, 2014, 04:12 |
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Do the tutorial that comes with your fluent installation or type the name of the tutorial in a search engine and take one that is for your fluent version.
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February 11, 2014, 06:20 |
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I found the tutorial i start with its steps but when i reach applying periodic conditions step to apply the mass flowrate i did not see this option in my define menu hope you understand what i mean now for more illustration see the picture i sent with this post.
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February 11, 2014, 06:30 |
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I dont know which tutorial you are using.
The one I am talking about looks like this when it comes to impose a mass flow rate: periodic.png |
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February 11, 2014, 07:21 |
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Yes it appear after i define the zones in modify zones in fluent console. Now I run this tutorial and I need to apply periodic to my case I have 3D cylinder (pipe) do I need first to transform inlet and outlet boundaries to walls so i can transform it to periodic boundaries?
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February 11, 2014, 08:35 |
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No you dont have to do that.
Periodic boundaries can be set up from any kind of boundaries using the text command from the tutorial. |
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February 11, 2014, 08:59 |
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Well I transform inlet boundary to periodic and i made its shadow the outlet boundary it told me periodic zone created and outlet boundary deleted?? when i did run i predict surface heat transfer coefficient from Report integrals for the wall then estimate Nu from the relation Nu=hD/k it become 0.0274 W/m2.K which it incorrect? it should be 4.36?
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