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Old   November 22, 2014, 14:34
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Hello!
I'm so happy if you give me some advice.

I want to use multi fluid vof model to study single bubble behavior.

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1.Can I use the model to study it?
2.What is the Diameter in the secondary phase dialog box?
Is it the bubble diameter I want to study?

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Old   November 22, 2014, 17:29
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Hello!
I'm so happy if you give me some advice.

I want to use multi fluid vof model to study single bubble behavior.

Questions
1.Can I use the model to study it?
2.What is the Diameter in the secondary phase dialog box?
Is it the bubble diameter I want to study?

Thank you!
1. Probably. The multifluid vof model is highly appropriate for bubbly flows in a liquid (dispersed bubbles in a flowing fluid). Is this what you have?
2. It's better described as an average particle size of the dispersed phase and typically the Sauter mean diameter is used. But it's basically going to become your bubble diameter. See section 17.5.5 in Fluent Manual for more details.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauter_mean_diameter
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Old   November 23, 2014, 11:14
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Thank you very much for your reply!

I study single bubble(diameter=3mm) behavior using VOF(1 fluid model).
So, I don't focus on bubbly flow.

I focus on the mass transfer from the gas to the liquid.
But I can't study the momentum transfer between the gas and the liquid using VOF(1 fluid model) (section 17.7.1).
I want to study it by two fluid model, because I can study the momentum transfer.

Question.
1.If I can study single bubble behavior using multi fluid vof, is the diameter 3mm in the dialog box (fig.1)?

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Old   November 24, 2014, 16:33
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Hello, I think VOF is not appropriate for bubbly flow, VOF is availabe when your phases have distinct layer, for example Slug.
for Bubbuly (velocity of 1st and 2nd phases are different according to their density) so Eulerian might be good choice as I know
This is what I know :-)

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Thank you very much for your reply!

I study single bubble(diameter=3mm) behavior using VOF(1 fluid model).
So, I don't focus on bubbly flow.

I focus on the mass transfer from the gas to the liquid.
But I can't study the momentum transfer between the gas and the liquid using VOF(1 fluid model) (section 17.7.1).
I want to study it by two fluid model, because I can study the momentum transfer.

Question.
1.If I can study single bubble behavior using multi fluid vof, is the diameter 3mm in the dialog box (fig.1)?

Thank you!
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Old   November 24, 2014, 19:22
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Hello, I think VOF is not appropriate for bubbly flow, VOF is availabe when your phases have distinct layer, for example Slug.
for Bubbuly (velocity of 1st and 2nd phases are different according to their density) so Eulerian might be good choice as I know
This is what I know :-)
Multi fluid VOF is an Eulerian model. Multi Fluid VOF is different than Volume of Fluid model.
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Old   November 24, 2014, 23:51
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I understand the difference between VOF and multi fluid VOF.

I'll do my best for my reseach.

Thank you for your reply!
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Old   November 25, 2014, 00:05
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If anyone has some ideas for my reseach, please tell me.

My reseach: mass transfer from the gas(single bubble) phase to the liquid phase.

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