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How to obtain....

Hi,

How to obtain a grid-independent solution in Fluent? OR how to ensure that solution obtained is independent of grid/mesh size?

Thanx.

 Armin Gips February 13, 2002 03:06

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Hi,

You have to adapt your mesh e.g. by gradient. Then start the iteration and get a new solution. If the values in your flow field differ only by 0-3 % the solution should by mesh independent.

Armin

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Dear Armin,

 Armin Gips February 13, 2002 11:46

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I mean you should refine your mesh. For example by gradient or iso value etc. It depends on your problem what is suggestive.

Armin

 Scott Whitney February 13, 2002 12:03

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Basically to ensure a grid-independent solution, you must run each Fluent simulation with two different grids. These grids must be significantly different from one another. That means you cannot just alter one or two cells. If you run Fluent on two completely different grids and you get the same answer, then you are grid-independent. If you get two significantly different answers, then which do you trust? Answer: neither can be trusted since the result depended on the grid (and you must create a 3rd, 4th, 5th,… grid until you find some that give you the same result).

Here are great methods to generate two completely different grids: 1) Use different cell shapes. If you used rectangles in one grid, try triangles with the second grid. 2) Use a lot more cells in one grid than the other. If one mesh used 10,000 cells, have the other mesh use 20,000 cells.

Be realistic when you check for grid independence. Suppose you are interested in a temperature at a point. If that temperature goes from 300K to 300.1 K with different grids then you should realize that 0.1K is not a significant change. If changing the grid altered the temperature from 300K to 302K, then this may or may not be significant (this depends on your required solution accuracy). If changing the grid altered the temperature from 300K to 1000K, then you most likely have really bad grids and need to create a good grid before you can even hope to trust the Fluent results.

 Scott Whitney February 13, 2002 12:05

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I forgot to mention one thing.

A grid independent solution is a must for any simulation. However, it doesn't guarantee that you can trust your simulation results. If you used a bad model, then you will get grid-independent bad results. Only if you use a good model and you get grid-independent results can you trust your simulations.