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Old   May 29, 2002, 13:48
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Dear ALL

I am currently trying to model water flowing through a pipe in Fluent 5.5. To validate the model I have found a number of published papers on the subject. Many of the papers use a parameter called the 'root mean square velocity'. What does this mean and how can I get it from Fluent?

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Old   May 29, 2002, 17:03
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Urms is the root mean square of the turbulent fluctuations in the x direction. It can be recovered from the turbulent kinetic energy if the flow is isotropic (i.e. u'=v'=w') using k=1/2(u'^2+v'^2+w'^2). However the flow is unlikely to be isotropic and so if you are using an eddy viscosity model you will need to know the ratio of u':v':w'(which for example is 4:3:2 for equillibrium flat plate flow).

For eddy viscosity models the flow is assumed to be isotropic so it will be difficult. For second-order closures you can recover Urms from the Reynold stresses.

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Old   May 29, 2002, 17:10
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Sorry 4:2:3 not 4:3:2
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Old   May 30, 2002, 09:55
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Hi Steve,

Thank you very much for your response. I am using the k-eps 2 equation model which if I understand correctly assumes the eddy viscosity is the same in all directions. Can I therefore assume that it will be impossible to get the rms of the turbulent fluctuations from Fluent directly (unless I change to the Reynolds stress model) and the only way I can get them indirectly is to know the ratio of u'v'w' for a pipe?

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Old   May 30, 2002, 16:14
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Thats correct, however if the data you are comparing to has all three components of the turbulent fluctuations than you could combine them to give k and compare to k from FLUENT.
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