CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

Species and reactions

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   November 6, 2002, 17:41
Default Species and reactions
  #1
Ale
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hi,

if you select hydrogen-air as the mixture material, you will see that this mixture includes 9 volumetric species (H2, O2, H2O, O, H, OH, H2O2, HO2, N2), but only 1 global volumetric reaction (H2 + 1/2 O2 ---> H2O).

How can it predict so many species with such a simple kinetics? How does Fluent calculate the source terms for all these species?

Can anybody answer to these questions?

Thanks a lot.
  Reply With Quote

Old   November 9, 2002, 20:31
Default Re: Species and reactions
  #2
Jin-Wook LEE
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
You can not predict the so many species with such a simple kinetics. Use PDF approach by using prePDF. prePDF is based on the 'fast chemistry'. I think that H2+O2 reaction can be regarded as 'fast chemistry'. Then you can predict many species, upto 20 for current Fluent version.

Sincerely, Jinwook

  Reply With Quote

Old   November 11, 2002, 16:28
Default Re: Species and reactions
  #3
Ale
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thank you Jinwook for your answer. I know that with such a simple kinetics I cannot predict so many species, that's what makes me surprised.

If you enable Species Transport in Fluent 6, you can choose the hydrogen-air mixture, and see that in the mixture there are the 9 species I mentioned.

If you enable Volumetric reaction, and you look in the materials panel, you will see that there is only one reaction (that is the global reaction of hydrogen oxidation).

What I would like to know is: how can fluent calculate the concentrations of all the species in the mixture, if it apparently takes into account only one reaction, involving just H2, O2, and H2O?

I hope that now my question is more clear...

Regards,

Ale
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
activate species transport reactions N K Ram FLUENT 2 October 8, 2013 08:59
catalytic reactions - solid species? Claud FLUENT 0 February 5, 2008 02:41
Multiphase + Species reactions for wall surface ?? Luke FLUENT 1 June 25, 2006 09:07
Surface reactions in Species transport model Karthick FLUENT 0 May 26, 2004 05:24
Limitation of Number of Reactions and Species Shahrokh Hajireza Siemens 0 January 25, 2001 07:18


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 20:03.