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Sven July 29, 2004 08:50

Convergence of Eulerian-Lagrangian part. tracking
 
Calculating a discrete phase particle tracking in Fluent 6, I am trying to determine a reasonable time step size for the solving of the tracking equations.

By trying a single particle injection, and stepwise decreasing the lenght scale or increasing the step lenght factor I expect the solution to converge to some value of residence time for the particle. Instead I find that the residence time do not stabilize to a certain converged value, but tend to fluctuate in a random pattern when decreasing the time step size (even to a very small time step).

Could it be that my grid is too coarse or something..? I know that the minimum time step that is accepted by Fluent is the time step that corresponds to the "length" of a control volume.

Thanks for any tips or explanations!

George July 29, 2004 10:21

Re: Convergence of Eulerian-Lagrangian part. track
 
If your flow is turbulent and the particles have stochastic properties, then you will not get the same residence times.

Regards

George

wxl July 29, 2004 14:06

Re: Convergence of Eulerian-Lagrangian part. track
 
I found even if for laminar flow, particle trajectory will not converge as I reduce the time step. Something is not right in Fluent. And I found the particle reflect boundary condition at the centerline of an 2D axisymetric tube is doing funny.


Sven July 30, 2004 05:21

Re: Convergence of Eulerian-Lagrangian part. track
 
Thanks for your sharing your experience!

That is what I also suspect - that there is something strange with the software. Perhaps somebody have tried the same thing in some ofter software environment? And in that case, any recommendations for choise of software? (laminar duct flow with free surface)

Sven July 30, 2004 05:34

Re: Convergence of Eulerian-Lagrangian part. track
 
Thanks for your comment, George!

I am modeling laminar flow in a duct, which means that there is no stochastic handling of the particle equations.

I am at this moment calculating the laminar flow using a finer mesh. I am thinking that this could yield in the possibility of smaller time steps in the particle tracking calculations.


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