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as April 1, 2005 21:09

Udf about the distribution of the diameter
 
My problem is about writing UDF program. I want use Mixture model to simulate two phase flow. I want to write a UDF about the distribution of the diameter of solid particles In my flow ,about 10 percent(10%) of the solid particles is 20 micron. about 90 percent(90%£© of the solid particles is 50 micron¡£

as April 1, 2005 21:10

Re: Udf about the distribution of the diameter
 
Can anyone help me about the UDF .Thank you

ap April 2, 2005 14:55

Re: Udf about the distribution of the diameter
 
I'm not sure it's possible to do this. Check the manual.

Regards, ap

as April 2, 2005 20:10

Re: Udf about the distribution of the diameter
 
Thank you for you response !I can not find any example in the manual ,I want to know if the udf can solve this problem

pUl| April 3, 2005 00:44

Re: Udf about the distribution of the diameter
 
I do not know if the following makes any sense at all, but I do know that fluent lets you do this without any errors or warnings which makes it even dangerous to use :)

Define the 'Primary phase' as usual. Next define 2 'Secondary phases'. Let both the secondary phases represent the same dispersed material. Define different diameters for both the secondary phases. Under "Interaction" disable any interaction between either secondary phase (i.e. drag). Carry on with the problem definition as usual. Once the solution has converged, define a "Custom field function" that equals (1 - volume fraction of the continuous phase) which will now give you the volume fraction of the dispersed phase. One of the things to think about is defining inlet velocities and volume fraction guesses for the dispersed phase. Whatever you do, you need to ensure that the total mass flow rate of the dispersed phase matches with what you would have had, if you introduced a mono-dispersed dispersed phase. This would seem like simulating a size distribution without breakup or coalescence, but I stll have my doubts. On second thoughts, it does seem to make no sense, so please use at your own risk!

ap April 3, 2005 09:15

Re: Udf about the distribution of the diameter
 
Yes, this is a tecnique used to simulate a size distribution for example in gas-solid flows.

In this case it seems ok, but if you have a spread size distribution it's not convenient because you have to use too many secondary phases, increasing the computational time too much.

One question: why do you have to disable the interaction between secondary phases? You should just choose the proper drag correlation.

Regards, ap

pUl| April 3, 2005 15:33

Re: Udf about the distribution of the diameter
 
Wow ap, thanks for your reply. I never knew whether this method was accepted for use.

The reason for disabling the interaction between the two secondary phases (same dispersed material) is that I find it rather unreasonable to believe that two gas bubbles for instance can have a 'drag' kind of interaction between each other when the possibilities of coalescence seem much more possible.

Perhaps you could shed more light on this.

Best Regards,

Srinath Madhavan

ap April 3, 2005 17:36

Re: Udf about the distribution of the diameter
 
I don't know that much about bubbles. I only saw this tecnique applied to fluidised beds.

Just look for more information in the literature. For example, look on the Elsevier journals, like Chemical Engineering Journal or so.

Regards, ap


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