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Old   October 18, 2007, 21:40
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I'm modeling gas downflow in a heated pipe. The flow rate will be such that it is laminar. From previous studies I expect the flow to have flow reversal (upflow) near the heated wall section due to buoyancy. Also it has been found that this flow reversal occurs in oscillatory behavior, where reverse flow separates off one side, then the other side.

So I was wondering on any suggestions on turbulence model. Do i do it laminar or turbulent. With secondary flow I'd suspect turbulent (to capture this), but from tutorials I've modeled vortex shedding with laminar. And if I use turbulence, any suggestions on which model.

Thanks so much in advance!

tony
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Old   October 18, 2007, 22:07
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I've modeled this with k-eps, k-omega and sp-all using unsteady simulation, but for all of them the result is steady. I just get regions of recirculation (upflow) next to the wall. I haven't been able to get the oscillatory recirculation behavior.
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