# Query

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 September 15, 2008, 04:01 Query #1 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a I am doing cfd analysis of an air gap in a foil bearing used in turbomachines.While solving the mesh in fluent,when i put 'compute from' in the initialization panel,it reads non-positive volumes exist. What is the solution for the problem i am encountering? Reply eagerly awaited. Rishikesh

 September 15, 2008, 06:14 Re: Query #2 CL Guest   Posts: n/a Hi rishikesh check ur grid first, i think u may have negaive volume in ur domian thats why its showing like that. X,Y grid should be in positive value suppose if its in negative means fluent cant solve that...

 September 15, 2008, 06:20 Re: Query #3 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a Dear CL when we put up grid check in fluent,if it says done,does that mean that the grid is correct? i have already used smoothing during meshing in gambit. please elaborate a bit on 'negative volumes' and how are they created? my meashing area is really small(350 microns) as compared to the circumference. could this be a reason why negative volumes are being created?

 September 15, 2008, 06:59 Re: Query #4 CL Guest   Posts: n/a Hi rishi, A negative value for the minimum and maximum volume indicates that one or more cells have improper connectivity. So check ur grid in that see minimum and maximum volume, check whether its showing positive value or negative value.

 September 16, 2008, 01:31 Re: Query #5 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a Dear CL i checked the min and max volunme values.both are positive.still it is showing 'non-positive values exist'. what would be the problem now?

 September 16, 2008, 02:30 Re: Query #6 Venkatesh V Guest   Posts: n/a Hi Cl and Rishikesh, I have got one more query though not related to yours, it is related the problem you are simulating. In the bearings usually the gaps will be in the order of microns. In that case surface tension effects will play a major role and the surface roughness will be in the order of our mesh size. Do you have any puplished literature on CFD analysis using fluent on bearings? If you have documents can share it with me. Thanks Venkatesh V

 September 16, 2008, 02:33 Re: Query #7 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a hey venkatesh there is very less literature available on bearing cfd. i do have come pdf files gimme your email and i will forward it to u and yes your point about surface tension seems to be correct.

 September 16, 2008, 06:02 Re: Query #8 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a venkatesh i am about to complete the 1st trial for my foil bearing. ucan ask me if u hv any difficulties..... Rishikesh

 September 16, 2008, 06:04 Re: Query #9 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a Hey CL the problem is solved thnx a ton for your help.

 September 16, 2008, 06:07 Re: Query #10 CL Guest   Posts: n/a Hi rishi, can u tell me what was the reason of the problem pls. With regards, CL

 September 16, 2008, 06:12 Re: Query #11 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a well the reason was that i was not re-ordering the domain when i read the case file in fluent Rishikesh

 September 17, 2008, 01:15 Re: Query #12 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a hey venkatesh have u done cfd analysis of any bearing? please reply asap Rishikesh

 September 18, 2008, 01:02 Re: Query #13 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a CL can u tell me how to import an igs file into gambit?

 September 18, 2008, 03:33 Re: Query #14 CL Guest   Posts: n/a Open the gambit- file- import-geometry- iges file.

 September 18, 2008, 04:08 Re: Query #15 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a i tried it.its saying translation failed. is it possible to import a geometry in a pirated version?

 September 18, 2008, 04:31 Re: Query #16 CL Guest   Posts: n/a Tell me in which modeeling software u modeled ur geometry.

 September 18, 2008, 04:40 Re: Query #17 Rishikesh Guest   Posts: n/a hey CL i was able to import the geometry. but since i am using a pirated version,i can only use the native mode. btw,i created the geometry in SOLID EDGE thanks a lot for your help! Rishikesh

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