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teymourj July 2, 2009 02:07

Virtual Blade Model (VBM) for wind turbine.
 
Hi everybody,

I had a question about doing a simulation with help of VBM on a 2-bladed
horizontal axis turbine.

The mesh that I am working is a horizontal axis turbine in compare with the
tutorial example, that I had from FLUENT company, in which it
has a vertical axis rotor of a helicopter in its mesh.

My problem is at the very last step of defining the case in FLUENT. When I
put all my information in the "Rotor Inputs" panel, after clicking on
change/creat to save the changes, by clicking on OK button I will get the
fallowing error:

================================================== ===================
1000000 ERROR: Cell ID not determined 1000000 allocate_memory
/usr/local/Fluent.Inc/fluent6.3.26/Inamd64/3d/fluent.6.3.26[0xdd6fcb]
/usr/local/Fluent.Inc/fluent6.3.26/Inamd64/3d/fluent.6.3.26[0xdd6f21]
/lib64/libpthread.so.0[0x3de400e4c0]
libudf/inam64/3d/libudf.so(allocate_memory+0x6a9)[0x2ad5ac63ef5b]

Error: fluent.6.3.26 received a fatal signal (SEGMENTATION VIOLATION) Error
Object: #f
================================================== ===================

I am pretty sure that my settings have no problem, as long as I am able to
run the simulation for the tutorial example. My idea is that I am doing
something wrong, or should have something in my mesh. Because based on the above error, FLUENT can not recognize my rotor zone.


Thank you for your time and consideration and I am looking forward for your helps and answers.

With regards

Teymour Javaherchi

lalita19 July 11, 2009 12:17

hellou, please you know where i can found a tutorial to to my blade design model in asys fluent?, i dontknow how to start,thanks

teymourj July 11, 2009 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalita19 (Post 222377)
hellou, please you know where i can found a tutorial to to my blade design model in asys fluent?, i dontknow how to start,thanks

Hey,

The tutorial is not available on the web. We got it from FLUENT. You should contact them directly and request for the tutorials and the UDF's for the VBM (Note that the files are big and can't be sent via Email and you will receive it on a CD from FLUENT).

Provide me an Email address and I can send you the tutorial PDF, so that in mean while you can read about it.

I hope that this was helpful.

Good luck with you design! ;)

ghazanfarzahedi July 12, 2009 00:33

Hi Teymour

I need to the udfs and tutorial about the VBM model too and don't know how can access to it.

Would you please send me udfs and some tutorial about it? (Email adrress: ghazanfar.zahedi@gmail.com )

Specially thanks in advance for your favor
Ghazanfar Zahedi

Benjy4real July 28, 2009 16:42

Hi Teymour,
Is it possible to send me the tutorials too? I am new to Fluent. My email address is: kanyabm@clarkson.edu
Thanks.

antoniskirkos September 4, 2009 06:55

Thesis help!
 
Hello!Is it possible to email me the tutorial and if possible the udf?I need them for my thesis!My email is: antoniskirkos@hotmail.com Thank you for your time!

Best regards!

kirit_GSU September 4, 2009 10:15

can you send that tutorial to me at kirit.morshed@yahoo.com

kirit

teymourj September 5, 2009 00:54

Dear all,

After posting this post I received lot of CMs about sending the tutorials and files for VBM, but unfortunately I won't be able to do this for every single of you and I gave it up after sending it to very two requests. I advised you guys to contact FLUENT under aca-support@fluent.com and request the tutorials and related files from them. It is part of their customer service and support to respond you and send the required files to you. Please don't send me your Email to get those files.

I wish all of you best of luck with your projects and research.

With regards

-teymourj

ali jamaleldeen March 31, 2010 09:48

hi every body, I am working on wind turbine blade on ansys, so could you please send me the pdf tutorial by mail (ali_jamaleldeen@hotmail.com)

trantoan2008 April 4, 2012 04:35

Hi All,

I am working on wind turbine blade Fluent Ver. 6.3. I am really interesting Fluent Virtual Blade Model method to do it. Could you please send me the UDFs and pdf tutorial by email: trantoan2008@gmail.com

Thanks in advanced

teymourj April 4, 2012 11:30

Hey,

VBM UDF can be provided via the company that provides you FLUENT licences. Simply ask them and tell them the version of FLUENT that you are working with and they will send everything for you.

Best,

Teymour

trantoan2008 April 4, 2012 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by teymourj (Post 353157)
Hey,

VBM UDF can be provided via the company that provides you FLUENT licences. Simply ask them and tell them the version of FLUENT that you are working with and they will send everything for you.

Best,

Teymour

Hi Teymour

Thank you for your response. Unfortunately, I am not Fluent's customer so that they provide that for me. If possible, Could you help me?

Best,
Tran

blgypeng June 12, 2016 11:07

Hi Teymourj

I need to the udfs and tutorial about the VBM model too and don't know how can access to it.

Would you please send me udfs and some tutorial about it? (Email adrress: blgylovepeng@gmail.com )

Specially thanks in advance for your favor
yan liu

teymourj June 12, 2016 14:25

All of our developed VBM simulation are belong to you ;)
 
All of our previously developed RANS simulations (including VBM) are now publicly available here:

https://mhkdr.openei.org/submissions/all

Take advantage of them and cite us ;)

blgypeng June 13, 2016 07:35

Hi Teymourj,this web about the vbm,all informance include cas and data file, is not yet available for download.

teymourj June 13, 2016 22:07

The data has been submitted few days ago. Allow some time for being process and checked. It should be available for public access soon :cool:.

I can not provide you the UDFs and case studies directly. Sorry about that! :D

blgypeng June 28, 2016 23:50

hi teymourj, encountered the same problem with you,I want to know how you can solve this problem? I guess it should be a grid problem.
I tried out the grid many times and not succeeded.The grid needs to meet some certain conditions,maybe,but i don't know.
can you give me some hint?
error:
1000000 sum_icell_f = 6658, sum_icell_c0 = 610635, sum_icell_c1 = 20050
1000000 ERROR: Cell ID not determined
1000000 allocate_memory

Error: received a fatal signal (Segmentation fault).

Error: received a fatal signal (Segmentation fault).
Error Object: #f

thanks.

teymourj June 29, 2016 12:37

Reply-blgypeng
 
blgypeng,

It's been a while since I have resolved this error. Here is some tips for you:

1-Make sure in your mesh you have an full 360 unit circular face as the rot_face.

2-When meshing it make sure to mesh it separately and standalone as a face and mesh the rest of the volume based on that.

3-When entering the information on the VBM panel make sure to use very accurate data for sizes and position of the origin (i.e. take them from your mesher).

4-Eneter the blade section information one-by-one and hit change/create bottom and OK every time.

These should minimize your issues with VBM. Most of the time setting up the VBM model for the first time comes with many crashes and mistakes. It happens to everyone.

Good luck!

blgypeng June 30, 2016 03:56

teymourj,
thank you for your quick response.I tried to do what you said,and made a test used a structure grid and succeeded.Prior to this, I used unstructured meshes,and the thickness of rotor fluid cell zone is not a layer,i guess this is a reasion the mesh not work. Anyway,i will try to use the structural grid to complete the windfarm simulation. Thank you very much.
And now,i have a another problem,about the VBM model parallel computing.Do not know if you have used parallel.I just want to know the VBM model UDF can be compiled in parallel?
Thank you very much.Best.

teymourj June 30, 2016 20:53

Reply2-blgypeng
 
Dear all,

Due to a high volume of contact about VBM and it's implementation for simulation of horizontal axis wind and tidal turbines and after some in-depth investigation I have found the proper sharing route of our methodology development and VBM UDF files.

Users can find the step-by-step methodological tutorial for implementation of VBM to model a horizontal axis wind turbine here:

http://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/s...t/README.ipynb

As mentioned in one section of the tutorials all the required VBM UDF files compatible on version 14.0 and above can be downloaded from our github page at:
https://github.com/sfo-project/3D-fl...t/README.ipynb

Please feel free to check out our other tutorials for fundamental (Tier I) and complex (Tier II) implemented in Star CCM+, FLUENT and Open-foam (SFO-project) here at the SFO-project page:

http://faculty.washington.edu/teymourj/sfo-project.html

If you had a case study that wanted to add to our archive, we will be more than happy to help you do that under your name. The SFO-project team will help you and teach you how to do this process.

Let me know if you needed any more information on VBM.


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