# Fin inside supersonic flow

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 March 16, 2010, 17:52 Fin inside supersonic flow #1 New Member   Liol Calvert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Poitiers, France Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0 Hi, As a project to end our studies in engineering in Poitiers (France), we had to modelize the behavior of a fin inside a supersonic flow (Mach 5). First, we wanted to know the temperature,pressure and velocity conditions near the fin. Here is a picture of the modelisation : As you can see, the fin is on the right, not meshed, surrounded by the chock wave. We solved this situation for the 3 seconds-long flight, with a time step of 0.001 s, in order to know the temperatures into the boundary layer. Next step was to mesh the fin (so we will have 2 faces, one solid and one fluid), to chararacterize the heating of the fin, knowing flux correlations on the fin boundaries. Here his our modelization : We've got these named selections : solid fluid inlet wall-fluid (automatically created by fluent) wall1 (where correlations must be applied) wall2 We tried to write an UDF to use boundrary layer temperatures into correlations, but we never made it to work. in Wall1, we choose the UDF in thermal conditions, but the fin doesn't see its temperature increase, and convergence criteria is very very high (quite impossible to go under 1E-2). Here is the code we wrote, with a very simple correlation to try to make it work. Code: ```#include "udf.h" DEFINE_PROFILE(temperature,thread,index) { real x[ND_ND]; real y; face_t f; begin_f_loop (f,thread) { real T= C_T(f,thread); F_CENTROID(x,f,thread); F_PROFILE(f,thread,index)= 100*(300-C_T(f,thread)); } end_f_loop (f,thread) }``` We had to use Fluent (told by our project director), yet we hadn't any formation on this software (Ansys Workbench 12). We're used to work with Matlab, so, even with the Ansys User Guide and Tutorial, it's pretty hard to do anything with valuable content...

 March 18, 2010, 14:17 Free Stream velocity #2 New Member   Srikrishna Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 7 Hi, Just curious. I am modeling a similar kind of geometry. But this is incompressible flow. Do you know any method to specify the free stream conditions. Also let me what options for Density, Viscosity, Thermal Conductivity, and Cp you chose while simulating your model. Thanks.

 March 18, 2010, 14:53 #3 New Member   Liol Calvert Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Poitiers, France Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0 Hi, We chose to specify "Pressure farfield", on Inlet, to specify the free stream to 5 mach and 1013 Pa. For the others parameters, we let the default values chosen by Fluent, excepted the fluid nature, which was "ideal gas"

 March 18, 2010, 20:56 #4 New Member   Srikrishna Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 7 Thank u Liol. But the pressure far field BC is only for compressible flows. That is where the problem is. I am dealing with incompressible flows. If u come to know any other BC for Mach < 0.3 , let me know.

 March 19, 2010, 03:10 #5 New Member   Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 8 i think conjugate heat transfer will be better.

 March 19, 2010, 07:23 #6 New Member   Srikrishna Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 7 Thanks denizen. So when you say conjugate heat transfer, you mean to sandwich the wall between two adjacent fluid zones. Let me know.

 March 19, 2010, 09:16 #7 New Member   Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 8 it means energy equation will solved everywhere in domain (solid - fin and fluid - gas) and heat transfer on the wall will be automaticaly accounted

 March 19, 2010, 13:01 #8 New Member   Srikrishna Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 7 ok. I got u. But I thought you are giving a solution to my problem of BC. My problem is about the outer boundary declaration in case of subsonic flows. Because if I restrict the flow field inside a defined domain, the no slip on walls causes flow retardation to the bulk of the flow and thus produces different results when compared to a wedge situated in a free stream flow. (flow at infinity). Let me know if you have an answer to this problem. Thanks.

 March 22, 2010, 10:31 #9 New Member   Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 8 could you explaine more detailed?

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