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Old   November 21, 2002, 14:04
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dinis
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I am trying to simulate the thermal and airflow behaviours in the refrigeration envelope of open display cases. Since the operation of those equipments is very sensitive to relative humidity, i would like to evaluate the equipment's (+ evaporator) performance under various relative humidity conditions. So, it was considered the fluid as air with a water-vapor concentration given as function of relative humidity (Amagat's Law in ideal gas mixtures). Which model should i use to simulate this condition: 1) Species Transport without chemical reactions, considering a mixture of air with a mass fraction of water-vapor?

?(Since the misture is in gas phase, I have many doubts in the use of following models, considering water-vapor (gas) as droplets)? 2) Euler-Euler Multiphase model - Mixture model, considering a mixture of air with a volume fraction of water-vapor) or, 3) Since the concentration of water-vapor in the atmospheric air is very low, should i use the na Euler-Lagrange Approach - discrete phase model? Aferwards, i would like to introduce thermal radiation in the simulation. For this case, which model should i use to simulate the air(gas)+water-vapor(gas) to obtain more accurate results. Also, can anyone suggest me bibliographical references to find mean values to absorption and scattering coeficients, and to refractive index for air and water-vapor in the IR wavelength. Thanks,
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Old   November 22, 2002, 05:50
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If you assume water exists as droplets you actually have saturated air, i.e. relative humidity = 100 %. So I guess you probably don't want to use any multiphase model but use a species transport model. You can add diffusion coefficients if necessary.

Air (humid or not) does not have a significantly scattering effect. Water droplets do (think of mist), but like I said I assume you don't have any.

The only components radiating in your mixture are CO2 and H2O. You could decompose air into its molecular components N2, O2, CO2 and H2O and then use the WSSG method for absorption.
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Old   November 24, 2002, 00:46
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Old   October 16, 2023, 22:05
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Hi everyone, I want to simulate moist air in a supersonic nozzle and extract nucleation and liquid mass fraction but there are not any options in the results section to receive these items. another thing that is challenging for me is that the results don't change with the change in humidity.(30%, 50%, 70%, 90%) I hope you can help me. Best regards
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