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Old   November 29, 2011, 13:18
Default Setting an external B0_x field in MHD module
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Hello.

I'm trying to do a simple simulation of pipe flow flowing through a transverse applied external magnetic field.

I've followed religiously the Manual provided by Ansys but I think it's not doing the job I'm wanting it to do.

In the Problem Set-Up/MHD Model/ I have a DC Field with B0_x Mean (Tesla) as 10 Tesla. I have applied the external field. In the boundary conditions I have a conducting wall.

In the Boundary Conditions section, I have a "Velocity-Inlet", "Pressure-Outlet", "Symmetry", and "Wall". There are UDS tabs for the inlet, outlet and wall zones. I have these all set to udf mhd_bc_conduct::mhd.
I'm not too sure what these UDS BV actually do... so if someone would want to elucidate?

I then initialize the problem etc. and the solution turns up exactly like there was no external applied magnetic field! During solving iterations, it also prints out residuals for uds-0, uds-1, uds-2.. and these are all zero, so I'm guessing it's not considering the huge magnetic field that I'm applying?!

For the record, in the Results section, when I display the Contour for Symmetry of "User Define Memory" / B0_x I get a pretty homogeneous 10 Tesla!
I know for a fact that the liquid (fast flowing molten metal) changes it's behaviour but it appears like it's not considering the applied external magnetic field?!
Please help!

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Old   November 30, 2011, 13:36
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Hello everyone.

Fortunately I figured this out myself.

The reason is that you have to click "Apply" for the external magnetic field in the problem set-up AFTER initializing the solution... i believe that by initializing the solution in general it cancels the application of the external magnetic field done by the MHD module. The MHD manual is a bit counter-intuitive in this regard!

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Hello Mr Fferroni,

I was wondering if you could help me out with this problem related to MHD using Fluent.

I have been trying to implement conducting wall boundary condition for the MHD module using the Electric Potential Method. It requires to specify a fixed current or voltage.

I am trying to simulate turbulent flow in a square pipe and have not been able to figure out a way to calculate the required potential/voltage at the boundary.

Please comment if you have any ideas.

Thanks in advance.

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hi mr. fferroni,
i was facing the same the same the problem .But your suggestion worked. thanks a lot.
but i am not able to get the lorentz force contour and also i am not sure bout boundary condition for uds-0 and uds-1. If you have any idea then please tell me .

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hi friends
the total magnetic flux through a closed surface is equal to zero. if your surface is close you havnt any induce magnetic field b.
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Old   July 2, 2014, 03:21
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i want to model mhd ( by fluent mhd module) in a channel with sea water flowing in it.
B=15 tesla
i solve the problem with no problem (solution converges also uds-0 , ... all converge) but the existence of mhd and magnetic field has no effect of mass flow rate or velocity in outlet boundary!

Can anybody help me out?
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Hi all,

I was trying to simulate MHD for finding the velocity profile of flow in the gap under different magnetic field.

Pressure inlet- 500pa
outlet - 0 pa

material - MR fluid

visco = 0.09 pas
permeability= 0.0008 H/m
Density= 3180 Kg/mm3.

i did simulation for 3T magnetic flux. But the velocity profile looks abnormal, velocity not reducing in the magnetic region, reduces only are the terminals of the field. Could any body please help me to find the profile.
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hello every body
I simulate flow of blood in artery and add MHD there by use fluent ,but not any effect for MHD force on velocity profile, please if any body can help me ,i face big problem because that.
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I have used MHD simulation for drug delivery in the lung but little bit confused the value of an external magnetic field. can anyone help me which value is appropriate for the magnetic field in drug delivery.


thanks in advance.....
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hello every body
I simulate flow of blood in artery and add MHD there by use fluent ,but not any effect for MHD force on velocity profile, please if any body can help me ,i face big problem because that.
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Increase the magnetic field and simulate. Another way is create the hydrodynamic entry length to allow flow to reach fully developed state and simulate.
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hi mr. fferroni,
i was facing the same the same the problem .But your suggestion worked. thanks a lot.
but i am not able to get the lorentz force contour and also i am not sure bout boundary condition for uds-0 and uds-1. If you have any idea then please tell me .

Thanks .
Heera lal
Hi dear friend. I am having the same problem, as well. can you help me through?
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Hello everyone.

Fortunately I figured this out myself.

The reason is that you have to click "Apply" for the external magnetic field in the problem set-up AFTER initializing the solution... i believe that by initializing the solution in general it cancels the application of the external magnetic field done by the MHD module. The MHD manual is a bit counter-intuitive in this regard!

Thanks

Francesco
Hello

I want to set sinusoidal value of electric potential (MHD module) for a wall, first i try expression but i faced to error :

Error: wta(2nd) to string_eq

Error Object: __expr__

then i try Profile and UDF profile , but agian i faced to problem , when i use them it consider the wall to insulated.

Could you help me how can i set sinusoidal value for current density ( Electric Potential MHD) ?

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