CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

Thermal Boundary layer

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   March 21, 2012, 21:01
Question Thermal Boundary layer
  #1
New Member
 
Leandro
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 14
leomec88 is on a distinguished road
Hello guys!
I have been working in a simulation that consists in a air flow over a heated rotating cylinder. I' m trying to visualize the thermal boundary layer. I have used the Coutours- Static temperature, but the results doesn't look good, the thermal boudary layer is quite big. On the other hand, I have used the wall temperature ( outer surface) and the results look closer to the expected, thinner. But my doubt is if I can use the wall temperature ( outer surface) to visualize the thermal bounday layer instead of the static temperature. Does anybody know the difference between the 2 methods?? Thanks!!
leomec88 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 21, 2012, 21:06
Default
  #2
New Member
 
Leandro
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 14
leomec88 is on a distinguished road
and what about the velocity bounday layer? Does anybody know how to visualize ???
thanks once more
leomec88 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 22, 2012, 22:04
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Leandro
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 14
leomec88 is on a distinguished road
Does anybody know?
leomec88 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 23, 2012, 09:28
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 109
Rep Power: 14
robboflea is on a distinguished road
The velocity boundary layer you can visualize it with normal velocity contours or vector plots. I don't think that the wall temperature can be used. I have no idea on how Fluent defines it.
What is the value of your y+ at the wall? How you obtain the rotation of the cylinder?

Cheers,

Rob
robboflea is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 24, 2012, 00:01
Default
  #5
Senior Member
 
Lucky
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Orlando, FL USA
Posts: 5,672
Rep Power: 65
LuckyTran has a spectacular aura aboutLuckyTran has a spectacular aura aboutLuckyTran has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by leomec88 View Post
Hello guys!
I have been working in a simulation that consists in a air flow over a heated rotating cylinder. I' m trying to visualize the thermal boundary layer. I have used the Coutours- Static temperature, but the results doesn't look good, the thermal boudary layer is quite big. On the other hand, I have used the wall temperature ( outer surface) and the results look closer to the expected, thinner. But my doubt is if I can use the wall temperature ( outer surface) to visualize the thermal bounday layer instead of the static temperature. Does anybody know the difference between the 2 methods?? Thanks!!
For thermal boundary layer, plot static temperature was you were doing
For velocity boundary layer, you need to plot the appropriate velocity.

You shouldn't be using wall temperature, since that is a surface/wall condition and has nothing to do really with your fluid. Boundary layers strictly refer to the fluid profiles. Plot static temperature, the answer is there. It's possible the thermal boundary layer from the simulation is wrong if the simulation was poorly done. It's also possible the simulation is correct and that there is nothing wrong with the solution.

As an aside on the wall temperature and inner/outer surface business...
When energy is involved, the way the heated/cooled walls is handled is to apply two very thin solid regions very close to the wall. Two regions are necessary to define both the surface temperature and the surface heat flux. I forget how each surface is treated specifically but in general the two temperatures of the inner and outer surface are different. The difference in temperature is what provides the gradient in the solid necessary to drive the heat flux. Read the fluent manual if you're really interested in this aspect.
LuckyTran is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
mass flow in is not equal to mass flow out saii CFX 12 March 19, 2018 05:21
CFX doesn't continue calculation... mactech001 CFX 6 November 15, 2009 21:25
CREATION OF BOUNDARY LAYER Jibran Haider FLUENT 3 August 1, 2008 00:33
Convective Heat Transfer - Heat Exchanger Mark CFX 6 November 15, 2004 15:55
errors Fahad Main CFD Forum 0 March 23, 2004 13:20


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:47.