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immortality July 5, 2013 12:10

PC turning on with a high loud of cpu fan at starting time
 
whenever I turn on the PC it starts with a high loud in cpu fan and after about 15-20s in decreases to the normal speed.
how can resolve it in the BIos?

immortality July 5, 2013 12:25

a utility for seeing cpu temperature in ubuntu
 
is there a utility that shows the temperature of cpu specially and other parts temperatures?

immortality July 5, 2013 12:30

threshould temperature in BIOS
 
Hi
what temperature should(better)be set in BIOS for cpu temperature threshould?

immortality July 5, 2013 12:32

whats the appropriate temperature for cpu idle and during run?
 
what is your experience about temperature of Cpu during the CFD run and when its idle? is there a much difference between AMD and INTEL?

wyldckat July 7, 2013 10:18

I've moved all of these posts into a single thread, because they are all related to each other.
Quote:

Originally Posted by immortality (Post 438020)
whenever I turn on the PC it starts with a high loud in cpu fan and after about 15-20s in decreases to the normal speed.
how can resolve it in the BIos?

There is no need to change anything in the BIOS, based on your description. That initial high speed is for security reasons and it will slow down when it is certain that it can slow it down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by immortality (Post 438025)
is there a utility that shows the temperature of cpu specially and other parts temperatures?


Quote:

Originally Posted by immortality (Post 438027)
Hi
what temperature should(better)be set in BIOS for cpu temperature threshould?

Depends on the CPU model you have got. In the past, CPUs could easily handle 80C. Today's CPUs, it's usually lower, maybe 70-60C, depending on the CPU.

Quote:

Originally Posted by immortality (Post 438028)
what is your experience about temperature of Cpu during the CFD run and when its idle? is there a much difference between AMD and INTEL?

Again, it depends on the CPU models and the coolers they are using.

immortality July 8, 2013 13:02

its the output of "sensors" command:
Code:

ehsan@Ehsan-com:~$ sudo service module-init-tools restart
restart: Unknown instance:
ehsan@Ehsan-com:~$ sudo service module-init-tools
Usage: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools COMMAND
ehsan@Ehsan-com:~$ sensors
fam15h_power-pci-00c4
Adapter: PCI adapter
power1:      33.95 W  (crit = 124.92 W)

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +22.1C  (high = +70.0C)

radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +82.0C

is 82 degree related to graphic card?

wyldckat July 10, 2013 17:39

Hi Ehsan,

I think so, the 82C are related to an ATI/AMD graphics card, using a Radeon GPU.
That's a very high value, although I think GPU's can handle up to 100C.

When you were cleaning the heat-sink for the CPU, did you first remove the graphics card, to make it easier to access the heat-sink?
(For other readers, I'm referring to this thread: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/har...ouble-cpu.html)

And if you did remove the graphics card, can you describe the steps you took to remove the card and then to put it back in?

Best regards,
Bruno

immortality July 10, 2013 17:53

Hi dear Bruno
sorry,I forgot to answer that thread.
no I didn't remove it but moved a bit a series of cable attached to it to see what is that!
because I didn't noticed that during installation of graphic card when I assembled the PC.
its 82 degree even now that PC is idle!
may removing and installing it again fix the issue?
I asked about Zalman fans but are too expensive,they say in email that Zalman Cnps 10X performa is 148$! and its the cheapest! Zalman Cnps12x is 358$ ! these are too high prices for only a cpu fan!
I wish I hadn't clean the heat sink,dust were very better than cleaned fan now!

wyldckat July 10, 2013 18:06

I don't know how much space you had for handling the CPU heat-sink, but I have a bad feeling that you might have damaged the graphics card, while you were moving the heat-sink around...

Properly uninstalling the graphics card and then installing it again, might help a bit. One of the things you can confirm is if the heat-sink of the card has any massive dust in it or if the fan is able or not to spin properly. To clean it, you only need a vaccum cleaner (used with caution), with a small brush (not one of the ones from the vacuum cleaner) to help loosen up the dust for it to come out.
And be careful to not have any static electricity built up on yourself, or you could damage the card.


Another possibility for the high temperature could be because of using the open-source ATI/AMD graphics card drivers, which might not be scaling down the power usage.

The (somewhat) official Ubuntu instructions on how to install the ATI/AMD drivers are available here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
In theory, these should automatically help in reducing the heat produced by the graphics card, since it can scale it down the GPUs frequency.


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