SES - Subway Environment Simulation

alireza2475 · December 4, 2012, 09:23

Hi every body.
Does any one have any information about the computer code for CFD simulation in subways naming "Subway Environment Simulation (SES)" ?
It's from Parsons Brinckerhoff. I googled for the software and I didn't find any link to download the code or the manual. Can anybody share data about this software?

karkar · January 18, 2013, 06:40

Is there any reason you're specifically into SES? What kind of data are you interested in?

AFAIK, it's discontinued. There's http://www.railroaddata.com/rrlinks/Detailed/2775.html which tries to link to it, but that FTA link has rotted to uselessness. Did you try and contact the FTA about SES?

http://www.ntis.gov/search/product.aspx?abbr=PB254789 claims to provide the user manual for 95$, but the download size of ~44 MB is really weird - the original manual is only 4MB and the CD ~16MB, so this is probably a scan. Also the page count of 1515 is weird, since my manual has only 620 pages, and Oct 1975 is way behind the August 2001 one I got... This is a .gov URL, so it should be official, but nonetheless this all sounds odd.

Anyway, due this lack of support (and the really buggy VB input program, that I can tell you...) you might want to consider using a different software.

alireza2475 · January 18, 2013, 08:51

Hi Karkar

Many Thanks for your reply. As you said the support is very restricted from the developers, especially for the bodies out of US. The time when I was looking for the SES, It was not clear how we can buy that code and we tried our chance by giving money for that manual (the link from .gov) for possible addressing to the code. However, we couldn't have in hand the SES code from any sources.

Clearly, focusing on the things for which the SES was developed , I am going to simulate ventilation systems of tunnels and fire and fire products propagation in such systems in possible accident. Would you please share your data about this area. Do you know any alternative software with the same or better capabilities developed especially for such jobs?

lfbarcelo · Today, 09:39

alireza, did you ever get to download SES?
Have you found any other software suitable for tunnel designing?

December 4, 2012, 09:23	SES - Subway Environment Simulation	#1
alireza2475 New Member alireza Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 4	Hi every body. Does any one have any information about the computer code for CFD simulation in subways naming "Subway Environment Simulation (SES)" ? It's from Parsons Brinckerhoff. I googled for the software and I didn't find any link to download the code or the manual. Can anybody share data about this software?

January 18, 2013, 06:40		#2
karkar New Member notyet Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 2	Is there any reason you're specifically into SES? What kind of data are you interested in? AFAIK, it's discontinued. There's http://www.railroaddata.com/rrlinks/Detailed/2775.html which tries to link to it, but that FTA link has rotted to uselessness. Did you try and contact the FTA about SES? http://www.ntis.gov/search/product.aspx?abbr=PB254789 claims to provide the user manual for 95$, but the download size of ~44 MB is really weird - the original manual is only 4MB and the CD ~16MB, so this is probably a scan. Also the page count of 1515 is weird, since my manual has only 620 pages, and Oct 1975 is way behind the August 2001 one I got... This is a .gov URL, so it should be official, but nonetheless this all sounds odd. Anyway, due this lack of support (and the really buggy VB input program, that I can tell you...) you might want to consider using a different software. alireza2475 likes this.

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January 18, 2013, 08:51		#3
alireza2475 New Member alireza Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 4	Hi Karkar Many Thanks for your reply. As you said the support is very restricted from the developers, especially for the bodies out of US. The time when I was looking for the SES, It was not clear how we can buy that code and we tried our chance by giving money for that manual (the link from .gov) for possible addressing to the code. However, we couldn't have in hand the SES code from any sources. Clearly, focusing on the things for which the SES was developed , I am going to simulate ventilation systems of tunnels and fire and fire products propagation in such systems in possible accident. Would you please share your data about this area. Do you know any alternative software with the same or better capabilities developed especially for such jobs?

Today, 09:39		#4
lfbarcelo Member Fran Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 33 Rep Power: 5	alireza, did you ever get to download SES? Have you found any other software suitable for tunnel designing?