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Old   April 6, 2011, 14:17
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Hello,

I am new to this CFD online.....I will get straight to my point..

First of all a brief Intro -

I have done my bachelors in Mechanical Engineering.
During my 6th semester..I started taking intrest in Aerodynamics...
I completed my bachelors in 2008....nd was into job within a month.
Worked in ANSA/Hypermesh/Nastran for NVH modelling and analysis for Powertrain Components(By the way I work for a major French Automobile Company in India).
After 2 and half years....I am into Powertrain CFD....for flow calculation..using StarCD Pro AMM..

I want to do Masters & PHD in Aerospace engineering(Because of the sole reason that I want to gain knowledge in Aerodynamics,Experimental CFD,Fluid Dynamics)....Basically i want to learn as much as I can on Aerodynamics...

I have short listed some of the U.S universities..based on -

1. Tution fees(coz of budget constraint)

2.Research areas and facilities available...as my primary objective is to learn Aerodynamics,Experimental CFD,Fluid Dynamics

3.Courses of studies and Elective available.

But still i have concers over my short listed Universities.

But I want to get some info. regarding any other Universities basically from Europe where I can pursue my masters and PHD based on my above mentioned 3 criterias of selection.

Please help me out with this..Thank You.
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Old   May 8, 2011, 09:44
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I myself am going to do a masters in CFD in Cranfield University in the UK this year. This course to me seems the best going, with a direct emphasis on all areas of CFD. Another option would be a masters in theoretical and applied fluid dynamics in Manchester University.
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Old   May 11, 2011, 15:23
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I myself am going to do a masters in CFD in Cranfield University in the UK this year. This course to me seems the best going, with a direct emphasis on all areas of CFD. Another option would be a masters in theoretical and applied fluid dynamics in Manchester University.
I myself have enquired about race car engineering and cfd masters in Cranfield.I got in touch with a passout from there...and his replies were stunning.Its a one year course and they dont cover much.they just deal with some basics,which he said we can learn from a user guide of any software ! ! !
they only cover the mentioned courses in the program,superficially.

that was always a doubt wid me too,that how much can you cover up in a year of masters ! ! !....newazz best of luck.
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Old   May 11, 2011, 18:00
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I myself have enquired about race car engineering and cfd masters in Cranfield.I got in touch with a passout from there...and his replies were stunning.Its a one year course and they dont cover much.they just deal with some basics,which he said we can learn from a user guide of any software ! ! !
they only cover the mentioned courses in the program,superficially.

that was always a doubt wid me too,that how much can you cover up in a year of masters ! ! !....newazz best of luck.
Really? I din't know this. I myself really want to work in CFD, and you really need a CFD thesis to be able to do this. So, if anything this course offers a good place to do a CFD masters.

Edit: Was that gut you were talking to a student on the MSc race car engineering course?

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Old   June 6, 2011, 21:27
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pritish,
Another British option is Uni Southampton. They have a couple of CFD masters degrees available. They have an MSc in race car aerodynamics, another in computational aerodynamics, and a third in marine CFD. The topics covered by all three include: numerical methods, CFD, applied CFD, Turbulence physics, Turbulence modeling along with specific courses applicable to each degree (applied aero, aero experimental techniques, and aero CFD, race car aero among others as courses I didn't have). I personally have done the marine CFD MSc after coming in with significant experience using openfoam and I think the combination has been to enhance what I have learned from each on their own. They also have Phd's for both aero and marine applications. Regarding the quality of the courses, I would say the numerical methods and both turbulence classes were excellent, particularly the turbulence modeling one. The other classes I took were all reasonably good as well (Design search & optimization I & II, flow control, advanced FEA, yacht experimental techniques to name a few). I don't think that the fact that it was a year detracted from its quality, but it did make it quite intensive, but for me the cost of 1 year in the UK was much more attractive than two years in the US. I am friends with most of the race car aero guys from my year and they all seemed pretty satisfied with it. Good luck with your applications to where ever you choose to apply.
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This may or may not be useful to you. However, if you are applying for a MS or Ph.D. degree in the US you should not be worrying about paying fees, etc. Every program that I have investigated with a solid research department in CFD offers full graduate assistantships. They pay for your tuition and fees. Also, you normally receive a stipend for living expenses. I would not be applying to programs which did not offer this. In the US, engineers are a valuable commodity and paying for a graduate degree out of pocket completely is almost unheard of. These programs can be quite competitive but a 3.5 GPA from an accredited university plus a good interview is normally more than sufficient.

Good luck! And from someone who is pursuing his Ph.D. in this field, I definitely think the sacrifice is worth the effort.
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There is also Leeds University, I'm currently on the MSc CFD there and i can highly reccomend it, they have great links with Ansys and one of the lecturers works for Ansys CFX as well as at the uni. I couldn't tell you how it compares to cranfield or southhampton since i haven't done thier courses. The one thing i can say about leeds is that the lecturers are very helpful and if they don't know the answers they can either point you to someone who does or they will find out for you.

Thats my advertising done

Andy

P.s. The head of course is great, most helpful lecturer i've ever met.

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Not a regular poster but found this an interesting (if at times confusing) read.

Obviously 10+ years on from the initial question .... so, can anyone say has it been worth it??

I'll try keep this short-ish, but a snip of my experience having entered the industry in this time:

I studied the MSc at Leeds a few years back. Why did I do it? Luv of fluid dynamics, heat transfer, numerical methods??? errrm, not really. I guess I just thought the application of simulation in widespread engineering applications was a whole lot cooler then other engineering options to pursue. Naive or not, I just liked the idea of virtual engineering before physical testing. As you can probably imagine, I found the course hard at times, but got through it, and shockingly still enthusiastic at the end. Must add that the teaching was great and cracking facilities. NOT easy though. In truth, getting my first job in the field took a few months .... altho not wasn't really any longer than the majority of other grads i knew. I was also contemplating accountacy though (another equally boring story).

Its only been in the last 3 or 4 years tho that I've really grown to really appreciate the subject. I've worked with many codes and important to recognise collective and individual limitations, but I've definitely seen its value if applied within it's means, and managed properly.

I've noticed a hive of activity and development in commercial CFD which has (and should continue) to increase it's accessibilty. In my short time (5 years or so). ive also seen divisions rise within the CFD community with so called 'design' orientated CFD encroaching and even taking on more classic codes. It's a welcome challenge, because despite any foundations of debate regarding credibility, it's sheer presence has (IMO) shaken up a couple of codes so that they're a little less exclusive and more accessible. Have to add I've used more than one such 'design' code and once again, used properly, can save a lot of time and money.

More companies (such as mine) still continue to invest heavily in CFD. And its an area I'd probably still go into had i to make the choice again.

that or be a vet
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