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Fab June 21, 2006 08:41

Preprocessor - Ansa?
 
Hi,

do you have any recommandations about using ansa as preprocessing tool for internal flows (hvac) in combination with FLUENT and StarCD? As far as I know there are different options for automatic mesh creation: a) use ansa for everything and export the create volume mesh using asession file or script b) use ansa for the surface mesh and create the volume mesh with tgrid(Fluent) or proam (StarCD)

If you prefer the second option, what tool is 'better' suited for internal flows?

Greetings! Fab


Fab June 21, 2006 10:14

Re: Preprocessor - Ansa?
 
Hi,

me again ...

is it possible to buy a tgrid or proam licence without getting the 'main' tools? As I understand the export and import function from Fluent an StarCD it should be possible to use e.g proam together with Fluent and tgrid with StarCD!?

Greetings! Fab


Tom June 22, 2006 04:48

Re: Preprocessor - Ansa?
 
Hi Fab,

I use Ansa in combination with STAR-CD. I am also familiar with Fluent. Based on my experience it is best way to create surface and volume mesh in ANSA - it is the fastest way. Quality of Mesh is comparable to Tgrid and proam. This is valid for pure Tet-meshes. If you need prism-layer at wall, ANSA is not my first choice. It has some problems with internal flow -geometry and prism-layer creation. In this case I switch to proam.

Hope this helps tom


Fab June 22, 2006 06:24

Re: Preprocessor - Ansa?
 
Hi Tom,

thanks for your information! Do you have any experience in hypermesh, too? I am open to any suggestions :)

Greetings! Fab


ben June 22, 2006 06:59

Re: Preprocessor - Ansa?
 
I would recomend using STAR-CCM+ as a meshing tool too, probably best to use ansa for surface mesh (which it is very good at) then CCM+ to create a poly or trimmed vol mesh.

Tom June 23, 2006 07:56

Re: Preprocessor - Ansa?
 
Hi Fab,

I have seeen some presentations on hypermesh and tried to do some on my own but I had problems with the logic behind. It is not the way my brain is working ;-)

In my opinion ANSA is the most powerful tool for surface meshing and I have seen a loot. We also started to evaluate ANSA in combination with STAR-CD's polyhedral technique and this is also a very powerful combination.

The major advantage is that you can create a very fine and detailed surface mesh with ansa (which would create millions of tets) and make a polyhedral volume-mesh with PROAM or STAR-CCM+ which give a fraction of # of cells. Unfortunately there are some nasty edges with some very strange shaped polyhedral cells (I never would not trust simulation results in this area). But anyway, it is worth to try this way. It is really amazing: the same surface mesh give you 4 million tets and only 300.000 polyhedrals (and it does not look coarse). Unfortunately we could not start to compare numerical results due to some problems with operating system and the solver. But I am looking forward in seeing this.

tom


Fab June 27, 2006 00:15

Re: Preprocessor - Ansa?
 
Hi Tom,

thanks for your suggestions! It seems that most people would use ANSA ... I'll give it a try.

Greetings! Fab


shyam zade July 4, 2006 04:15

Re: Preprocessor - Ansa?
 
HELLO ALL can anybody tell me where can i get a trainingin Ansa in pune india as i had done ansys cfx10.0 what other things i can do for me to have job in cfd domain



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