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October 25, 2013, 03:36 
Problem in 3D Navier stokes solver

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Hi everyone,
I am solving unsteady 3D Navier stokes equations on staggered cartesian grid. The solver is converging but the results are not matching with the Literature. What might be the reason? I have attached the profile obtained for Re Number 1000. Thanks in advance. suhas 

October 25, 2013, 04:12 

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check if you really reached a steady solution, then check if the divergencefree constraint is satisfied cellbycell. The BC is correctly imposed?
Furthermore, you case is a 3D liddriven, what database are you using to compare your solution? 

October 25, 2013, 05:41 

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Hi,
Thank you for the reply. 1. It is reaching steady state. 2. It is divergencefree with residual 10e10 3. I am doubtful about the boundary condition applied. I am using explicit BC method i.e I am updating the value of ghost cell after the iteration. Is this right? 4. I ran the same solution in OpenFOAM to compare it with mine and referred Feldman paper to match 3D results. And the more important thing is I am using first order upwind which should be more diffusive. But I am getting a bigger secondary vortex as can be seen in the above attachment. How can this occur? 

October 25, 2013, 06:01 

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2. cellbycell? 3. are you using a first order extrapolation? 4. I don't know that paper, I suggest to check for a more quantitative variable than the snapshot of streamlines. It is also advisable to check if a 2D solver provides the well known solution at Re=1000. First order upwind can increase the tangential stress, more energy can be transferred to secondary vortices and they can become bigger. 

October 25, 2013, 08:36 

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1. It has already reached steady state.
2. I am checking divergence free for every cell and the max value of residual is 10e10. 3. What exactly do you mean by extrapolation(Is it richardson extrapolation?). 4. I have plotted the centre line value of Ux velocity and tried to match with Ghia's result, but there is small difference due to the presence of that vortex which cuts that centre line. 

October 25, 2013, 08:54 

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you can not compare your 3D driven cavity with the Ghia's solution that is 2D... have you tested the 2D OpenFoam solver?


October 25, 2013, 09:00 

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No I ran a 3D OpenFOAM problem. And one more difference is the solution in OpenFOAM was highly unsteady for that Reynolds Number. But for my case it was less fluctuating and reached steady state earlier than OpenFOAM's result.


October 25, 2013, 09:05 

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A possible chance is to run a lower Re case (Re=400) using the 3D solver but setting periodic condition in the spanwise direction (z). 

October 25, 2013, 09:11 

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No I actually ran 3D OpenFOAM code to match it with my solver which is also 3D.


October 26, 2013, 11:36 

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It is probably because of first order upwinding. Try, for example, Quick Scheme and then compare the results.


October 26, 2013, 14:19 

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Yes I am changing that first order upwind now to deferred correction by giving blending between UDS and CDS.


October 26, 2013, 14:32 

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You also can try central differentiating. If you use pressure correction, no wiggles will usually happen, as the pressure correction acts as stabilizer for the momentum. You can try, and see either your model works without wiggles for your applied Re number.


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