CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

Porosity of Trees

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   August 22, 2007, 12:21
Default Porosity of Trees
  #1
Ruth
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I am doing some wind modelling around a building which is overshadowed by a number of large trees. I plan to model the tree canopy as a porous subdomain, but the question is how porous are trees.

Having done a literature search, it appears that either the figure 50% porosity is plucked out of thin air, or detailed analysis is undertaken resulting in very specific and complex models.

Does anyone have a reference for the 50% figure, or a more accurate figure with some sort of validation? There are also seasonal, and species variation in porosity so any guidelines taking this into account would also be welcome.

Thank you, Ruth
  Reply With Quote

Old   August 22, 2007, 14:34
Default Re: Porosity of Trees
  #2
JWilliams
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Ruth,

50% is way too low a value for porosity of trees. Porosity should be closer to 0.99 for dense foliage, 0.999 for intermediately dense foliage, and 0.9999 light foliage.

One way to determine the porosity of a type of foliage is to look up its Leaf Area Index (LAI)

For broadleaf trees,

porosity = 1-[t/2*(LAI/h)]

where t=leaf thickness

h= height of the canopy

For coniferous trees,

porosity = 1-Dc/4*(LAI/h)

where Dc=needle diameter.

You should be able to find plenty of data on LAI in literature.

A few authors you should look into are:

R.M. Cionco J.J. Finnigan G. Gross M.J. Judd M.R. Raupach R.S. Kinerson L.J. Fritschen A.S. Thom R.H. Shaw U. Schumann T. Yamada

  Reply With Quote

Old   June 30, 2010, 11:26
Default
  #3
New Member
 
james charlton
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 27
Rep Power: 16
charltonjames is on a distinguished road
Hi JWilliams,

Im having the same problem, but thanks for the equation. Do you have a reference for it?

@Ruth - how did you progress with your model?
charltonjames is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   September 2, 2010, 08:21
Default air flow through trees
  #4
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 15
ukduka is on a distinguished road
Hello,

I try to model a 2D air flow through a tree (conifer tree) and I wonder whether anyone knows any typical values of the following input settings required in the fluid panel for the porous media (the tree):

1) Viscous resistance
2) Inertial resistance

If you have a reference as well it will be also very useful.

Many thanks,
K.
ukduka is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   September 3, 2010, 04:38
Default
  #5
New Member
 
james charlton
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 27
Rep Power: 16
charltonjames is on a distinguished road
Hi Ukduka! I have exactly the same problem. And need to know the same values. Please update any findings on this forum and ill do the same. Hopefully we'll be able to resolve it.

I've read several research papers relating to wind through tree modelling using CFD, but i havent found any useful information.
charltonjames is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   October 6, 2010, 14:51
Default Porosity of Crown
  #6
New Member
 
Sam Pournazeri
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 0
sampournazeri is on a distinguished road
Hi guys,

I also have the same problem in Fluent modeling the flow through the forest, I really don't know what to put as the Viscous Resistance and Inertial Resistance there. As I was doing some literature survey ,the porosity numbers are significantly scattered. as a reference I have found the following article :

Pekin, B.; Macfarlane, C. Measurement of Crown Cover and Leaf Area Index Using Digital Cover Photography and Its Application to Remote Sensing. Remote Sens. 2009, 1, 1298-1320.doi:10.3390/rs1041298

and they are reporting values between 0.11 - 0.39 for the crowns.

however , JWilliams was reporting the numbers in the order ro 0.99 for densly packed canopy.

I was wondering , if you guys have found anything new.

Thanks
sampournazeri is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Problem in setting porosity region for rhoPorousSimpleFoam run_cfd OpenFOAM Pre-Processing 1 May 31, 2011 09:02
Porosity field in Fluent wojciech FLUENT 1 September 20, 2010 11:19
Modelling wind through trees Anna Davis Main CFD Forum 1 September 17, 2008 08:33
UDF for porosity Giacomo FLUENT 3 July 23, 2007 09:23
porous media with variable porosity Kevin A. FLUENT 3 December 24, 2006 10:56


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 20:46.