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Gem Leku October 16, 2007 17:37

SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?
 
Hello

How do you choose between the algorithms SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?

Are there any guideline somewhere? Can someone draft a recommendation?

Thanks in advance

G.L.

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George October 18, 2007 04:29

Re: SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?
 
PISO is the more robust from the three algorithms. But it is a little bit more complex to implement. But in some cases the convergence is 20-50% faster.

If I were you, I would choose PISO. It worth the extra trouble of incorporating the extra terms.

SIMPLER on the other hand is a little bit faster than SIMPLE and it is extremely easy to implement. Just change a coefficient of the SIMPLE algorithm.

hope it helps

billpeace October 18, 2007 23:44

Re: SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?
 
For compressible NS equation,which one are used?

George October 22, 2007 04:59

Re: SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?
 
I am sorry for a mistake in my previous message. In SIMPLEC there is only a change in a coefficient, while SIMPLER is a bit more complicated.

All can be used for compressible flow.

billpeace October 23, 2007 23:27

Re: SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?
 
Are there any introduction on solving compressible flow by SIMPLE or other three algorithms? I know how to implement simple algorithm for incompressible flow,but add a energy equation for compressible flow. How to deal with the addition equation?

thanks


George October 24, 2007 04:50

Re: SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?
 
You just compute density with the ideal gas law or any other law. And ofcourse the incoming flow rate does not equal the outcoming flow rate as in incompressible flows.

ag October 24, 2007 09:09

Re: SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?
 
Well, not quite. You do need to also solve the energy equation (typically the enthalpy equation is used.)

opaque October 24, 2007 11:20

Re: SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?
 
Dear George,

Careful on:

"And ofcourse the incoming flow rate does not equal the outcoming flow rate as in incompressible flows."

Mass must be conserved. Therefore, for steady state calculations, the incoming mass flow must be identical to the outgoing mass flow.

Int_over_allboundaries (density * velocity) dot dA = zero

Opaque



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