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Dave December 21, 2007 03:37

Fanno Rayleigh flow in pipes
 
Hi,

Just a thought, but can commerical CFD solvers be used to model Fanno / Rayleigh flows?

Fanno flow requires a friction factor to be exact, so is it possible to consider a friction factor in the solver, or is it accounted for in the turbulence model?

Can Rayleigh flow be turbulent? Rayleigh flow neglects friction, but CFD solver apply wall laws, thus creating friction or is that a different 'type' of friction?

Any thoughts?

meenu_1 October 17, 2016 15:46

hi dave,
i just had done a test simulation on rayleigh flow in fluent. I used invisid model with heat source,and results from simulation matched perfectly with reyleigh invisd relation. Mach number increase from 0.3 to 1.
Next i am going to run it with turbulence model. Let see what happen......!

mome October 18, 2016 12:07

Yeah, both can be done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
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Fanno flow requires a friction factor to be exact..

Analytically you would probably assume it constant along the duct and then calculate, so is it not more interesting to use CFD to obtain it as an output? If you want though, there are ways to define such a boundary condition - details depend on the software. :)

aved August 1, 2021 04:51

Can you explain more detaily the process?

aved August 1, 2021 04:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by meenu_1 (Post 621826)
hi dave,
i just had done a test simulation on rayleigh flow in fluent. I used invisid model with heat source,and results from simulation matched perfectly with reyleigh invisd relation. Mach number increase from 0.3 to 1.
Next i am going to run it with turbulence model. Let see what happen......!

I need more information about the setup for the Rayleigh simulation. Can you please explain?


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