Buoyancy: Boussinesq approximation or temperature dependence?

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 September 18, 2015, 05:16 Buoyancy: Boussinesq approximation or temperature dependence? #1 Member   Agustín Villa Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brussels Posts: 94 Rep Power: 4 Hi folks, I am dealing with a simulation of an incompressible fluid, where I have natural convection. Most of the people use the Boussinesq approximation, where they use as the expansion coefficient. But, in the case where the density (or temperature) changes a lot, this model should not be applied, and temperature dependence of density must be taken into account. When I check the validity of the Boussinesq approximation, some people says a small density difference (ie, temperature), but never said the exact value, or a reference, or a difference that allows . Mi question is if you know any criteria to choose between one of those ways? Thanks for your answer Last edited by agustinvo; September 18, 2015 at 06:33.

September 18, 2015, 06:49
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 Originally Posted by agustinvo Hi folks, I am dealing with a simulation of an incompressible fluid, where I have natural convection. Most of the people use the Boussinesq approximation, where they use as the expansion coefficient. But, in the case where the density (or temperature) changes a lot, this model should not be applied, and temperature dependence of density must be taken into account. When I check the validity of the Boussinesq approximation, some people says a small density difference (ie, temperature), but never said the exact value, or a reference, or a difference that allows . Mi question is if you know any criteria to choose between one of those ways? Thanks for your answer

as the approximation is based on a linear expansion, the analysis generally says no more than some degree of variation in temperature

September 18, 2015, 07:25
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 Originally Posted by FMDenaro as the approximation is based on a linear expansion, the analysis generally says no more than some degree of variation in temperature
Hi

in my case, in the range of temperatures I am working, the density varies linearly. So, in the case I use Boussinesq, it will be only valid, if there is a linear variation?

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 Originally Posted by agustinvo Hi in my case, in the range of temperatures I am working, the density varies linearly. So, in the case I use Boussinesq, it will be only valid, if there is a linear variation?
no, it depends on the range of variation, you cannot consider Bousinnesq if you get more than some degree

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 Originally Posted by FMDenaro no, it depends on the range of variation, you cannot consider Bousinnesq if you get more than some degree
I agree with you in that, but every journal, report... they only apply it, without justifying if under their conditions it's ok to use Boussinesq or not.

Since there are not more indications about when it should be used, the ideal situation should be consider always temperature dependence on density.

 September 18, 2015, 11:47 #6 Senior Member   Lucky Tran Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Orlando, FL USA Posts: 940 Rep Power: 16 The Boussinesq approximation is limited to small temperature differences because it only accounts for the changes in forces caused by temperature/density. The Boussinesq model does not actually take into account density changes (it's nearly an incompressible fluid). If your density change was purely linear, the Bounssinesq approximation would predict the correct change in buoyancy forces and in that sense it is valid to always use the Boussinesq approximation. However, if there are density changes then the constant density assumption is not valid in the sense of the remaining terms in the continuity, momentum, and energy equations (the terms involving the convective derivative). In this sense, it is always incorrect to use the Boussinesq approximation and in general, any changes in density should always be taken into account. In other words, even if your density change was purely linear, the Bounssinesq aproximation is still invalid as it does not allow for density changes (only buoyancy force changes). The criteria to determine the validity of the Bounssinesq approximation is therefore, to limit the temperature range to be small enough so that the density change is not significant. I don't know of a general criteria that is not subjective but it is analogous to: for what Mach number can a flow considered incompressible flow? It depends on the criteria that you are interested in studying (M=0.1 for some, 0.3 for others). FMDenaro and konangsh like this. Last edited by LuckyTran; September 21, 2015 at 11:28.

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