CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

Total pressure etc.

Register Blogs Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   April 28, 2000, 10:29
Default Total pressure etc.
  #1
Maxim Olshanskii
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Dear CFD experts,

The question is a bit from mechanics:

The term (u.grad)u + grad p in momentum equation has a clear meaning of convection and gradient of kinimatic pressure.

This term can be rewritten as (curl u)x(u) + grad P, where P is now Bernoulli (or total) pressure, an invariant in Euler limit.

I wounder of any interpretation for (curl u)x(u) term from the standpoint of physics/mechanics?! x - stands for vector product.

Thank you much for any suggestions and/or references!

Maxim Olshanskii
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 29, 2000, 21:50
Default Re: Total pressure etc.
  #2
John C. Chien
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
(1). For incompressible, inviscid flows, with constant total pressure in the initial state, the total pressure should be constant alone the streamline throughout the flow field. (2). This says gradient of the total pressure is zero everywhere. (3). So, under this condition, those funny terms should be zero also.
  Reply With Quote

Old   May 1, 2000, 15:58
Default Re: Total pressure etc.
  #3
Nishikawa
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

(1)It is derived from acceleration, so it is reasonable to think that it represents some acceleration. Indeed, if you write out (curl u)x(u) in porlar coordinate, you find centripetal and Colioris accelerations in it. So, it contains information about accelerations for rotational motions (2)(curl u) is a vorticity vector. So, (curl u)x(u) is a cross-product of vorticity and velocity vector (streamline). And if vorticity vector is parallel to a streamline, this term vanishes. This seems to mean that there can be vorticity along streamlines for flows governed by Euler equations of irrotational flow type, e.g. traling vortex of a 3D wing. (3)As you perhaps know, if you integrate the equation along a streamline, this term vanishes because it is perpendicular to the streamline. And you obtain Bernoulli's theorem for irrotational flows (constant total pressure along each individual streamline)

Maybe, (2)(3) are irrelevant to your question, though.
  Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Pressure Inlet" Boundary Setup Wijaya FLUENT 15 May 18, 2016 10:08
Static Pressure, Total Pressure ufechner FloEFD, FloWorks & FloTHERM 5 March 2, 2015 07:56
Pressure BC for combustion chamber Giuki FLUENT 1 July 19, 2011 11:35
total pressure in CFX Atit Koonsrisuk CFX 0 January 1, 2005 05:46
Hydrostatic pressure in 2-phase flow modeling (CFX4.2) HB &DS CFX 0 January 9, 2000 13:19


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 18:27.