CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Main CFD Forum

Has John Chien ever made a constructive comment?

Register Blogs Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old   October 18, 2001, 05:40
Default Has John Chien ever made a constructive comment?
  #1
Ken
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 06:22
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #2
chidu
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Yes, Check out his response to the thread on 'Marketing CFD services'. Especially the second response. I must also admit to being a little pleasantly surprised!

chidu...
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 08:59
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #3
Erich
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Yes, is this a constructive comment?
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 09:26
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #4
Ken
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Yes. Is that a constructive comment?
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 10:09
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #5
Erich
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Nope, IMHO this should be dropped in favor of CFD topics...
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 11:26
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #6
Helge
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Yes, very often
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 11:44
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #7
John C. Chien
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
(1). Well, if you remove all the posted garbages from this site, people will still dig around world wide to find the posted message, like digging out treasures from ancient Emperor's tomb. (2). Human tends to eat a lot of garbages and so, the "garbage in and garbage out" was used to describe such events. (3). I would strongly suggest that his posted messages be removed from this site first, and observe the new phenomenon. (4). Then people will start selling his posted message just like LINUX. (5). CFD has nothing to do with computer codes, it is all human activities. The first step is to study the human behavior, and this is the right place to start. We can called it "CFD Human Behavior". Can you make the CFD code to type the words on the screen or send e-mail? (6). I guess, human try to invent computer programs, so that it can behave like human. In the process, he is so confused that he does not know whether he is his computer code or his own original.
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 11:54
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #8
John C. Chien
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
(1). I heard that he said he was given the title of the "superman" some twenty years ago. (2). John C. Chien is already the trade mark of a superman. He is not a computer slave running CFD codes. He is the one who has great influence world wide. Still not convinced? (3). If I were you, I would start collecting his posted messages on CFD. If you study his message ten times, you will be a healthy person. If you study his message one hundred times, you will begin to learn something. Reading his message just once, it is garbage.
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 12:14
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #9
Ken
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I think you have become a wee bit doo-lally.
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 12:26
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #10
John C. Chien
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
(1). Sorry, that's the returned solution from the program working in your brain. He didn't say that the influence has to be good. Just read the returned message, it should prove the theory. (2). Well, one down, 99 to go. Keep on reading the same message, please. He is 100% sure that the returned message will change.
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 14:31
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #11
John C. Chien
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
(1). I guess he is trying not to touch the real CFD by accident, because that would have an even bigger impact on the CFD world. (2). You will have to read his posted garbages many times to smell the real stuff, if it is there at all.
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 15:16
Default some correction to John's idea
  #12
Tingguang
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
John, a small correction to your historical knowledge. Those terra-cotta warriers were just the decoration of the tomb for Qin Shi Huang, the great Emperor who united China and create a unique Chinese nation by unifying language and metric system. His tomb is still untouched nearby. These worriers was first found by local people, they used them to contain their urine, since they knew nothing about the tomb. It is our central government found the problem and help to preserve this heritage by set up the museum. Then we knew we have no technology to preserve the original color, so we stopped dig then. Now we can say nothing is leaked to outside world due to proper action. Unlike the documents from Dun Huang, what we have is a tiny fration of the original assets, which is discovered by one monk 101 years ago. Once a site is found, do you think you can bery it again. Humans are always greedy and sinful.

You cannot blame everybody, once you knew something. Hope you can visit China some time in the future, then you will have less non-sense ideas.

I basically agree with your idea on preservation. What you lack is some background knowledge. Do you think the CFD code for subsonic flow can be applied to supersonic flow?

Tingguang
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 18, 2001, 19:18
Default One more thing!
  #13
Tingguang
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
One more thing. The native religion in China is Taoism, which has a strong influence over common life of Chinese people. Taoist thinks the heaven is our father, the earth is our mother. The oil is our mother's blood, and the coal is our mother's bone. So the crude oil was discovered somewhat 600 years ago, but nobody use it in large scale (maybe for lamps). The Taoist idea dominate China over 2500 years, until the western ideas rush into China over the last century, especially last 20 years, under the name of open-door policy. Most people cares nothing but money, like the Gold Rush 150 years ago. In fact, most social ideas stay in the late stage of 19th centery, where you can find many ugly things in American society from O Henry's fictions. Several people cut some stone statue, which is not very old and wirthwhile. They sold them for several hundred dollars, which lead to their death penalty. This happened again and again. Whom we should blame?

Currently there is some revival of Taoist idea, especially the Feng Shui theory which trys to unify the built environment with surrounding nature. It is a good thing. Hopefully, our education will catch up with this trend.

That is my background information on John Chien 's comment. He has some prejudice over Chinese, especally on Dr. Lee's case, which is meaningless to us. CFD-online is not American's forum, though it is US based (?).

Let's stop here. Personaly I like John's comments on technical issues, especially I just start my Ph.D on CFD research. John's idea is still welcomed, though someone will correct him, sooner or later. That is fun.

Thanks for your precious time! Tingguang
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 19, 2001, 13:08
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #14
Dan Hinch
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
(1).Yes, often. (2).Sure, John has an unusual way of presenting this thoughts, and sometimes goes a bit off-track. (3). Sure, we all wonder how John finds time to post so much. (4). But, John often has interesting insight, makes us think about the topic, and I think contributes significantly to this web site.
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 20, 2001, 01:08
Default Re: Has John Chien ever made a constructive commen
  #15
S.P.Asok
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Rightly said about John C.Chien.Why don't people complaining of his ways just ignore whichever they are not able to stomach.He is not pulling anybody into an argument.No one can ever make a person to communicate in a way which pleases everyone.A strong beleif in this part of the world where I am residing is that it is because of the freedom of thought and expression allowed in the other part part of the world that originality is bred and innovative break throughs are often resulting therof.
  Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
dsmcInitialise - dsmcFoam archymedes OpenFOAM Pre-Processing 93 February 11, 2014 02:22
fluent3DMeshToFoam bego OpenFOAM 27 May 29, 2013 13:08
one-year without John C. Chien temporary historian Main CFD Forum 14 November 4, 2002 13:57
John Chien? stephen davis FLUENT 0 January 4, 2002 12:17
John C. Chien, WHO ARE YOU ? Anis MAALEM Main CFD Forum 14 September 5, 2000 14:18


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 16:59.