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Old   June 30, 2003, 16:08
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How many paper did you publish before graduation? My boss is kind of restricted guy, only allow ph.d to publish his work until everything is perfect. Well, I see some guy publish whatever he did once a year with little change or progress...... Is it a fair? I want publish too ... So I can get a job easily after graduation ......

sorry if it is a wrong place. Didn't find any other suitable boards to post this ......
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Old   July 1, 2003, 00:58
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Just wondering.. at which country are you currently studying?
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Old   July 1, 2003, 14:24
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Your boss has the right idea...you should be able to defend every results and equation you put into your paper. Remember people will be reading this and making a large number of mistakes doesn't look too good. Plus since I'm assuming you will be publishing to peer reviewed journals if you make too many mistakes the first time around it will either be tossed out and rejectd or you will have to go and correct all of your mistakes anyway.
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Old   July 1, 2003, 16:52
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strange, why do u think I'll make so many mistake. If I want to publish something, of course I have to try my best to make everything correct. But even the best scientist make mistake in their paper too. Well, what I mean perfect is like if a project has several parts, my advisor only allow students to publish after finishing all parts very well. While I see other people publish after finishing each part. I saw this at many famours journal, like "Journal of Fluid Mechanics", "physical of fluid", "International J of Comp. Fluid. Mech.". Some are obvious because the title is marked as report part1, report part2. Some art not, like some articles "apply k-l model to uniform grid", "apply k-l model to nonuniform grid", etc. I can do that too. I think there are only small changes in these paper, and can combine in one paper.
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Old   July 1, 2003, 17:09
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Each person has their own way of doing things. Obviously your advisor likes papers with his name on them to be as self contained as possible..presumably he was like this BEFORE you started to work for him so you shouldn't be surprised at his actions.
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Old   July 1, 2003, 20:56
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it really varies depending on the field and the nature of the thesis. In some cases, it also depends on the school and the country as someone tries to infer (I think). In places like the Netherlands, it is common for a thesis to be comprised of a series of published papers. Each chapter usually is a paper under that scheme. Some advisors believe that it is better to make one huge publication in the most recognized journal in the field instead of smaller papers spread around in less recognized journals. Some faculty members are on tenure track, so they want to have as many publications with his or her names associated as possible... It also depends on if your thesis is a continuation of an ongoing research within a large group, or if you are starting something entirely on your own... and experimental versus computation/theoretical, etc etc... So I am not sure there is an easy answer to the question.

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Old   July 1, 2003, 21:40
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There is a lot to be gained by writing a paper. The process of explainig the problem and your work requires organization of your thoughts and attention to detail that may be lacking in everyday activities. I suggest that you write a paper on your work, just as carefully as you would for submittal, and in the form required by the journal of your choice. Then, put it aside and look at it six months and a year later. If it seems as exciting and compelling as when you wrote it, you have a good paper.

We write in the context of our present knowlege and understanding. As this changes, many exciting results and discoveries begin to seem ordinary. Your advisor knows this, and only those ideas which can survive the test of time are those that he and you should want your names attached to.
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Old   July 15, 2003, 10:04
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i had a couple of journal articles and a few conference papers. I have been relatively lucky in that department.
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