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Old   August 17, 2003, 11:42
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JJ
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I was using Interleaf 5 to publish my papers. However, the company is out of business after I left school. I hate microsoft word. Would someone recommend the software can be used for book publishing? Thanks!
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Old   August 17, 2003, 12:11
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Latex. Really, why would you want anything else.
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Old   August 17, 2003, 13:38
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Can Latex easily import equations to MS word? How is cross referencing? Thanks!
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Old   August 18, 2003, 02:51
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Hi,

You can get equation from LaTeX, as picture, which you can import into the word.

I do understand, that it is not easy to learn LaTeX from scratch, but as a way to publish articles it is very efficient. Not only because the publishers typically provides you with the template which is easy to use, but also for the other reasons:

1) the output looks much better.

2) very easy crossreferencing of equations figures and chapters (sections), bibliography (you only reference the bibliography input, which is printed at the end according to the proper rules).

3) it is avalible for all the platforms (unix,linux, mac,dos, windows)

For easy start I suggest LiveTex http://www.tug.org/texlive/ and as an editor for Windows platform WinEdt http://www.winedt.com/ (even my 'Word' supervisor learnt to use it to edit my texts ).

No attempt to start any flame, but after some initial effort, specially journal articles are much easier in LaTeX then in Word.

matej

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Old   August 18, 2003, 04:46
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I think Framemaker is the most widely used commercial WYSIWYG document processor. It is now owned by Adobe and seems to be integrated into their product line and so should not disappear. It runs on unix, Mac and Windows but not Linux (better check no Linux though).

If you opt for tex/latex but would rather have something more digestible on the screen than source code (particularly useful for equations) then consider lyx or texmacs as front ends. Although they have their faults they are probably a better option for many than raw tex/latex source code.
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Old   August 18, 2003, 13:11
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Thank you so much for the info. I know most of you published lots of CFD papers. Sometimes, if you do more work to organize your understandings and citings, it is also good to publish a book. The font quality and layout is also important. It is also an investment specially for the weak job market. In this path, what you recommend for this life-time effort? Interleaf was pretty good of doing this, however, it was discontined(8 years ago. I think they changed their name) Thank you Andy, Matej and Praveen!
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Old   August 19, 2003, 17:06
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I share JJ's aversion to MS Word. The equation editor is very clumsy to use. Learning Tex/LaTex/MSTeX/etc. could be worth the investment in time as many journals now accept/require electronic submissions in one of these systems. They often provide style sheets to format the document in the form used in their journal. LaTeX provides generic style sheets for papers, books, and other documents. These can be edited to provide the look you want in your book. Learning the typesetting/markup language can be daunting though.

There is a product called MathType, which claims to be a professional version of the MS Word Equation Editor (or the Equation Editor is a dummied-down version of MathType). MathType can be used seamlessly with wordprocessors such as Word and WordPerfect, but can be used with others as well.

It can also export equations into LaTeX, web, and other formats. It uses the came clumsy graphic interface as the Word Equation editor, but could be used to get started while learning one of the TeX systems.

Information can be found at www.mathtype.com.

This is for information, not necessarily a recomendation. I use the TeX languages for equations and I find it reasonably fast to create complex equations directly. It is complicated enough that if I haven't used it in a while, I forget how to do things, so I always need a reference book nearby.
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Old   August 19, 2003, 17:35
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Yep

LaTeX is by far the best way to produce high quality reports/papers. The file size's are very small (just simple txt files) and are easily emailed. The referencing is excellent. It does take a little bit of time to learn, but this is far less than the amount of time you can spend trying to sort out MS Word referencing and formatting problems, especially when dealing with very large documents with embeded pictures etc. An excellent book which will get you well and truly started is:

A Guide to LaTeX: Document Preparation for Beginners and Advanced Users, by Helmut Kopka, Patric Daly, Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201398257.

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Old   August 20, 2003, 06:56
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Dr. Hrvoje Jasak
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Well put! I;ve been trying to convince people to the same thing for about 7 years now. The most extreme is an example of a friend of mine giving up on Microsoft half way through his Thesis (~150 pages) and re-doing everything in LaTex. I don't think he's looked back since
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Old   August 20, 2003, 07:52
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For starting out on latex you might find the following notes useful

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/
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Old   August 20, 2003, 08:35
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JJ: read also previous talks http://www.cfd-online.com/Forum/main...cgi?read=23185
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Old   August 20, 2003, 09:21
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That's strange. 300 pages per thesis. We are not allowed to have more than 120 pages in the main part of the thesis

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Old   August 21, 2003, 09:22
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Old   August 22, 2003, 14:27
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We are engineers. Hard to learn is not always a problem for us anyway. If we learned then it should be efficient and powerful with good book published qaulities and great layout. In that case, which software are you are planning to invest your effort? Thanks!
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Old   September 2, 2003, 09:59
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I use Scientific WorkPlace which I like because it integrates symbolic algebra (Maple and Mupad) with a front end for Latex. It deals with cross referencing, bibliographies etc. http://www.mackichan.com/

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