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Old   May 12, 2004, 06:24
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Hu
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Hi, Everyone, I want to use CFX 4 to solve the moving problem. The moving grid techniques are used in the case but the problem is as the grids move, the domain volume will increase or decrease. Should I add the mass source or sink to account for the volume increase or decrease in order to meet the continuity equation? Many thanks
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Old   May 12, 2004, 06:57
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Yes, something like that is required. Search for geometric conservation law.
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Old   May 12, 2004, 07:54
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No, you should not do anything if the moving mesh effects are already taken into account in the Navier-Stokes equations. Say you have engine cylinder with no inlets and outlets, then when piston moves up and down, the mass will stay the same, only pressure and density will change to satify mass conservation.
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Old   May 12, 2004, 12:06
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John, Thanks for your reply. I agree with you about the piston case. But for my case, the mass did increase or decrease. It does not stay the same. How to keep mass conservation without adding mass ? Hu
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Old   May 12, 2004, 16:04
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In this case, either CFX does not do a good job in moving mesh implementation (I heard someone mentioned this before), or you didn't set your case up properly. You could try to describe your case in more detail. In any case, the mass has to conserve.
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Old   May 13, 2004, 22:14
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I agree with John Luo lasts reply - CFX is not implementing the moving grid properly. If the numerical discretization if conversative in time as well as in space then continuity will be satisfied.

A previous colleague of mine wrote a CFD code with a moving grid and by constructioning his temporal discritization conservatively autmatically satisfied continuity.

The geometric convservation law (or GCL) is a product of improperly constructing the time discretization and used to be an ad hoc way of satisfying continuity. It is essentially a tranport equation for the transformation of the Jacobian matrix.
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