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Old   February 9, 2011, 06:05
Default How to import NACA 0012 Profile in Gridgen
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Hello,

I need some help with the Gridgen software.

I want to import the NACA 0012 airfoil geometry in Gridgen. I have the profile points of NACA 0012 (x and y coordinates), but I am not able to import it in Gridgen. (I know we can import this kind of file in Gambit but I am not able to do it in Gridgen.)

How I do import this profile in Gridgen?

Does anyone have the NACA 0012 profile file which can be imported in Gridgen?

Thank you very much in advance.

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Old   February 9, 2011, 08:09
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You can import the airfoil coordinates in Gridgen segment file format. You can import the segment file as either grid or database. Go the Input/Output menu and choose either Database Import or Grid Pts import. If you choose Grid Pts Import, then choose Curves on the next menu. Select your segment file in the file browser and you are all set.

The following piece of pseudo-code describes the format the data found in a segment file should take:
c.....nmax is the number of segments
c.....ni(n) is the number of points on segment n
c.....imax is the number of points
integer nmax
integer ni(nmax)
real x(imax), y(imax), z(imax)
do n = 1, nmax
write(1,*) ni(n)
do i = 1, ni(n)
write(1,*) x(i,n), y(i,n), z(i,n)
end do
end do

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there is no need to do this , this is useful for programming but not for this task
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You can try to use the procedure described at this link:

http://www.pointwise.com/glyph/airfoilGen/

This will do the job for you.
However if you want to be able to import any kind of curve defined by points the Fortran snippet suggested by Rmatus is the way to go, you can easily convert the code to any programming language you are more familiar.

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Far:

You are correct about the pseudo-code. It is not necessary to write code to make a segment file. But the pseudo-code listing is a concise way to show the file format.

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simple way is to write the coordinates in x, y and z (make it zero for two dimensional cases) and one at the top of files with total no of coordinates. e.g.


3
1.0 0.0 0.0
2.0 2.0 0.0
2.5 2.5 0.0

for 4 coordinates write
4
1.0 0.0 0.0
2.0 2.0 0.0
2.5 2.5 0.0
3.0 3.5 0.0

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I appreciate rick comments. this code is very much useful for the long data base
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@Far

You mean to write the file by hand ?

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I have made the three dimensional geometries by this trick
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simple way is to write the coordinates in x, y and z (make it zero for two dimensional cases) and one at the top of files with total no of coordinates. e.g.


3
1.0 0.0 0.0
2.0 2.0 0.0
2.5 2.5 0.0

for 4 coordinates write
4
1.0 0.0 0.0
2.0 2.0 0.0
2.5 2.5 0.0
3.0 3.5 0.0

hope this helps
i need to know the file extension for this type of files.
and can i import this file to the gridgen?
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Old   February 28, 2011, 09:15
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The default extension for the segment file is .dat, but you can make it whatever you want and Gridgen and Pointwise will both still read it.

Use File, Import, Grid to import it into Pointwise.

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Sorry to bring up this thread again.

I always get the error message: "Could not read file" file when selecting
→Input/Output
→Grid
→PTs Import
→Curves
and choosing the attached file.

Any help would be much appreciated
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Johannes:

The file imported just fine in Pointwise (see attachment). In Gridgen, I think you may be running into a limit on the number of control points allowed on a connector. You can work around this by first importing it as a database curve (I/O, Database Import, filename, Type Segment), and then using Create Connectors on DB entities to make a connector with that shape.

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Johannes:

The file imported just fine in Pointwise (see attachment). In Gridgen, I think you may be running into a limit on the number of control points allowed on a connector. You can work around this by first importing it as a database curve (I/O, Database Import, filename, Type Segment), and then using Create Connectors on DB entities to make a connector with that shape.

Hope this helps,
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Wow, this was quick - thank you very much Rick!!

Your suggested approach works fine Inserting an Akima spline connector takes pretty long though but at least I do not have to import each point manually

I tried now a simple case (Far's example from above):

3
1.0 0.0 0.0
2.0 2.0 0.0
2.5 2.5 0.0

And this one did neither get imported (via grid points)?! Pretty strange...
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I tried now a simple case (Far's example from above):

3
1.0 0.0 0.0
2.0 2.0 0.0
2.5 2.5 0.0

And this one did neither get imported (via grid points)?! Pretty strange...
That one worked fine for me in both Gridgen and Pointwise importing as grid points (connector). What kind of error message are you getting?
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That one worked fine for me in both Gridgen and Pointwise importing as grid points (connector). What kind of error message are you getting?
ERROR:
Could not read file.

-Hit any key to continue-




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Old   May 7, 2013, 12:43
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Here is the file I was able to import. Give it a try and see if you still get an error.

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Here is the file I was able to import. Give it a try and see if you still get an error.

Thanks,
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Rick, thanks to your effort, I found the error.

Actually there is an error in a local manual I used for the import. It is written, that there has to be an empty line at the end of the file. But actually the import does not work with this empty line.

Anyway Rick, thank you very much and your effort helped me a lot! Maybe somebody in the future won't have as much problems as me because of this thread.

Have a nice evening!
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