# How to know the know the Boundary Layer thickness and the edge velocity on a 3D wing?

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 May 3, 2011, 02:41 How to know the know the Boundary Layer thickness and the edge velocity on a 3D wing? #1 Senior Member   mohammad Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Seoul, South korea Posts: 214 Rep Power: 8 Hi guys, My questions are simple...Using CFD ( especially CFX)... 1-How to know the Boundary Layer thickness and the edge velocity on a 3D wing( blade)?... 2- Think that I have determined the BL thickness everywhere on the blade surface....Then how to save the geometry[ x,y,z=(thickness)] of the BL on the whole wing in a Text file or Excel file? Regards

 May 9, 2011, 02:27 #2 Senior Member   mohammad Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Seoul, South korea Posts: 214 Rep Power: 8 Please...help me ...TNX

 May 9, 2011, 07:37 #3 Senior Member     Vieri Abolaffio Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Always on the move. Posts: 308 Rep Power: 9 to get the bl thickness you can create an isosurface of veocity = 99% free stream velocity. then the distanche between the isosurface and the wing is your thickness

 May 9, 2011, 10:03 #4 Senior Member   Andrew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 195 Rep Power: 9 you will also need a very fine mesh at the surface to get an accurate measurement of the leading edge boundary layer thickness.

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 Originally Posted by sail to get the bl thickness you can create an isosurface of veocity = 99% free stream velocity. then the distanche between the isosurface and the wing is your thickness
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 Originally Posted by mettler you will also need a very fine mesh at the surface to get an accurate measurement of the leading edge boundary layer thickness.
Dear Andrew, dear Sail,
one other question : if I want to plot the velocity profile inside the BL , I must use some other isodurfaces between wall( zero velocity) to 0.99V and then plot the velocity profiles inside the BL, isn't it?

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 May 9, 2011, 10:30 #6 Senior Member   Andrew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 195 Rep Power: 9 what you would do in Fluent is create a plane perpendicular to surface, and then plot the velocity in that plane. You can do it as a contour plot. Or, you can get the values at each grid from the plane and determine the thickness from there. That is why you need a fine grid towards the surface. That is how I would do it. But, setting a criteria for .99V would be the fastest

 May 9, 2011, 11:36 #7 Senior Member     Vieri Abolaffio Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Always on the move. Posts: 308 Rep Power: 9 to get the bl Vprofile, if you need the plot for the whole section you can simply create a plane and then plot the velocity contours on it, as mettler said. else, if you need the profile at vairous chord coordinates, make a line normal to the foil surface at each station you need to investigate and just plot the velocities on those lines.

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 Originally Posted by sail to get the bl thickness you can create an isosurface of veocity = 99% free stream velocity. then the distanche between the isosurface and the wing is your thickness
Hi everybody,
A new question arises; when the blade is rotary( in Wind turbine) which speed should i work with when i want to calculate 0.99V? with Local( roartion+ axial for any radial station) ,with Average speed ( at mid-radial station) or just with axial wind speed?

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 Originally Posted by mohammad Hi everybody, A new question arises; when the blade is rotary( in Wind turbine) which speed should i work with when i want to calculate 0.99V? with Local( roartion+ axial for any radial station) ,with Average speed ( at mid-radial station) or just with axial wind speed?
Use the rotational+axial velocity as reference for rotary surfaces.

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