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moonser March 6, 2012 09:47

Boundary Layer thickness estimation
 
Hi guys and ladies.
I have gotten to grips with the meshing in Ansys finally and just need to be able to justify that the mesh is fine enough around the boundary layer. I am doing a VERY simple 2-d circle. I am just not sure how to work out the thickness. I have been told that I can use whatever velocity I want.

Can anyone give me a quick crash course in how to calculate/justify this.

Thanks in advance for any help.

mettler March 6, 2012 10:12

you can calculate the thickness based on your Re. Any fluids book will show you how.

good luck

RolandP March 6, 2012 10:26

I'm having a similar issue, and was just wondering if it was ok, as an approximation, to use the Blasius solution for an airfoil? Or is that too inaccurate?

mettler March 6, 2012 10:32

you just need a good estimation in order to make your grid fine enough to capture it in your CFD analysis.

RolandP March 6, 2012 10:33

Tidy, I've been going around in circles :s

I'll give it a crack thanks

moonser March 6, 2012 10:38

Cheers very much mate. Wasn't sure that you were aloud do that I thought I was missing a geometry factor somewhere.

pete March 6, 2012 15:26

Check out http://www.cfd-online.com/Tools/yplus.php

panospap March 7, 2012 04:51

Depending on your Re (flow material, characteristic length, velocity), you will have to use a specific thickness for your first cell to achieve a desired y+ value. For high Re you have to define very small thickness for the first cell. If you have been told you can use any velocity you want, then I would advise to run the calculation for low velocity, where you can have a good result for not so fine mesh.
The desired value of y+ depends on the turbulence model you are using. For example, for SST model y+ value should be around 1-2.
The tool given above gives you an easy way to determine all these. The only thing is that in this tool you also have to specify the boundary layer length, which is not easy to be determined in all applications.
I hope that helps.

Panos

cdf_user March 7, 2012 05:35

Check your yplus value
 
Your yplus value has to be less than 2 in order to accuratly represent the boundary layer. If it is more than two, refine your mesh.

rikio May 30, 2012 02:02

I am also confused about the boundary layer length. Is there anyone could show me the way to determine it?

cdf_user May 30, 2012 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by rikio (Post 363718)
I am also confused about the boundary layer length. Is there anyone could show me the way to determine it?

Boundary Layer length is function of Reynolds number. The exact for formula is in introductory fluid mechanics books. It is something like a*(Re^b).


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