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Hi Henry, I still don't know how to give the boundary on omega, because I can not get the paper. Could you send me a copy about the paper or the detailed formulum about the boundary? Thanks. Sandy sandy.lee37@gmail.com |
I get segfaults when using nutSpalartAllmarasWallFunction in combination with k-omega SST (and also with kEpsilon):
Reading/calculating face flux field phi Code:
Selecting incompressible transport model Newtonian |
I can reproduce this behaviour for the boundaryFoam Tutorial:
replace nutWallFunction with nutSpalartAllmarasWallFunction in boundaryFoam/boundaryWallFunctions/0/nut and you will geht this crash... I guess there is something wrong with my setup? Are there further changes needed? Thanks Bastian |
I get the same failure when I use "nutSpalartAllmarasWallFunction"! How can I eliminate this crash?
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When I use it in a adaptive fashon (let's say, my y+ is in between 1 and 15), I have to set k to fixedValue 1e-12, or I can set it to wallFunction as well? Thanks, Ivan |
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But, in my case about an external flow, I could not get convergent solutions to Beta equal 1~10 ...
If Beta = 1~10, it means the turbulence nu_t > nu. Is it really reasonable to turbulence flows? |
Sorry, I'm a beginner and maybe I can't help you. What turbulence model do you apply? Which are your boundary condition? Is your mesh a bad or good one, what's your y+?
I got in troubles with model, perhaps problems as yours. But now I'm focusing on SST model and it seems to work fine (I need it for a later propeller simulation), so I gave up with other turbulence models. |
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I could not find a nutUSpaldingWallFunction in 1.7? However, nutSpalartAllmarasWallFunction still exists(?) and the release notes tell me:
Regards Bastian |
nutSpalartAllmarasWallFunction has not been renamed yet but it will be. For this release we decided to maintain backward-compatibility with 1.6.x on this and a few other issues.
> New nutWallFunction continuous wall function Sorry this is a mistake in the release notes I will correct it. nutWallFunction is the high-Re wall-function based on k. The nutLowReWallFunction is the missing wall-function implementation for the low-Re models, it is not "continuous", again I will correct the release notes. If having a "continuous" wall-function for the low-Re models would be useful it could easily be created in the same manner as the nutLowReWallFunction H |
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If your near-wall y+<1 everywhere you can use a low-Re model; you don't need wall-functions at all.
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nutLowReWallFunction is to be used with low-Re models on walls for which y+>1.
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Just to clear my mind,
is nutLowReWallFunction ok if I use the k-Omega SST model on a wall that somewhere has a resolution of y+ O(1) and somewhere else O(10)? That's something similar to what starccm+ do with its "all y+" wall treatment... Thanks, Ivan |
nutLowReWallFunction is for low-Re models, k-Omega SST isn't. You need the continuous wall-function currently called nutSpalartAllmarasWallFunction, see previous posts.
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Hey @ all!
This all is a little bit confusing to me: I have to simulate a case(turbulent, compressible, rhosimple solver) using the k-omega-sst model. Now, If i have a mesh with y+>30, I need to use wall functions, thats clear. But, If I have a mehs y+<1(low-re), and I'd like to use the k-omega-sst modell, what boundary conditions for the walls do I have to take? Zerogradient for omega and k with very low values (10^-8), and calculated for alphat and mut (or other values?)? Or do I have to take a wall function (like mutlowrewallfunction) for one of those? I tried several approaches (y+30 mesh with wall functions => not very good results, probably because of the coarse mesh; y+1 mesh with wall functions: almost good results, but not good enough, I guess because the mesh is for low-re models, so I get trouble in this region; y+1 mesh with omega and k set to zero gradient, value 10^-8, completely wrong results) I'm a new user of OpenFoam, and I also never did CFD-Simulations before, so I only have little experience and not much knowledge about those equations, please excuse this. I hope somebody is able to help me. Thank you very much! |
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